Cubs Beat Theriot

[Coldneck]

Scarey, where does Bryd rank in advenced defensive metrics? I have to admit that I have the presumption that he's a subpar CFer, but I am really basing this on his body type and not on any real evidence. I don't remember ever watching him play defense. I do know that Keith Law considers Byrd a subpar CFer, but a good corner OFer.

[Kid]

<!--quoteo(post=80426:date=Feb 23 2010, 12:25 PM:name=Runnys)-->QUOTE (Runnys @ Feb 23 2010, 12:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I am sure over the 100's of games that Ruby has watched Byrd play he has determined with his excellent eye for defensive ability that he is terrible.

And because Ruby says so, that is the way it is. He couldn't possibly be wrong about anything.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You've concluded in the last 2 weeks that Sosa and Pujols weren't/aren't juicing because you looked at a picture of each of them.

[Scarey]

<!--quoteo(post=80431:date=Feb 23 2010, 01:57 PM:name=Coldneck)-->QUOTE (Coldneck @ Feb 23 2010, 01:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Scarey, where does Bryd rank in advenced defensive metrics? I have to admit that I have the presumption that he's a subpar CFer, but I am really basing this on his body type and not on any real evidence. I don't remember ever watching him play defense. I do know that Keith Law considers Byrd a subpar CFer, but a good corner OFer.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I didn't know Keith Law's opinion on it. That certain factors into my opinion as well.

As far as advanced metrics, he's rates as average as you can get. He's a 0.0 for his career in UZR/150. Last year he had a rough year and had a -9.5 UZR/150 while two years ago he had a very good year with a 15.3.

His plus/minus as a centerfielder from 2006-2009 was +3 which is average.

All the metrics say he's average. Testmonials from people say he's above average. This is what John Dewan had to say about him in a short blurb I found referencing his defense in center in 2008.

<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->Marlon Byrd, by the way, was plus-4 in 400 innings and looked pretty good out there.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

It's things like this that I see popping up about Byrd from time to time.

[Coldneck]

This was KLaw's take on Byrd.

<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->Marlon Byrd is a nice fourth outfielder who could play every day on a non-contender, but he <b>doesn't handle centerfield well enough to play it every day </b>on a team with aspirations of playoff contention and doesn't hit well enough to play every day in an outfield corner. He boosted his overall stats the last few years playing in a good hitters' park in Texas, posting a .290/.339/.415 line in 516 road PA over that time, a line that won't cut it in left or right field, and he's no better than average defensively in center, perhaps less if he has to play it 150 times a season. He replaces Milton Bradley and Bradley's replacements, but even with the off year Bradley was more productive for the Cubs on a rate basis than Byrd was in Texas, and the Cubs have improved by less than a win between the pair of moves.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

KLaw - ESPN Insider

[Brock]

The Muskrat just wrote an article about Byrd and his defense:

Big Byrd can cover the ground in center

<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->"I know a lot of writers and scouts who haven't seen me play in the outfield don't think I can play out there because of my size," Byrd said. "When people see me play, they know I can play."<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->"Marlon, he can go get the ball," Piniella said. "He gets a good jump on it and has good hands. He'll be our regular center fielder."<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

[Fella]

Byrd looks ripped, I didn't watch the Rangers more than a few times last year so I guess I didn't realize he had gotten so big since his Phillies days. He looks like Glenallen Byrd.

[Butcher]

<!--quoteo(post=80463:date=Feb 23 2010, 04:29 PM:name=Fella)-->QUOTE (Fella @ Feb 23 2010, 04:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Byrd looks ripped<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
He sure does. Look at the dude's arms:

[ColoradoCub]

HGH

[Ace]

<!--quoteo(post=80466:date=Feb 23 2010, 05:36 PM:name=ColoradoCub)-->QUOTE (ColoradoCub @ Feb 23 2010, 05:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->HGH<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Fine.

[Auz]

HGH or he lifts weights at the gym regularly

[Coach]

We need Ruby to confirm HGH or not.

[ruby23]

<!--quoteo(post=80497:date=Feb 24 2010, 06:09 AM:name=Coach)-->QUOTE (Coach @ Feb 24 2010, 06:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->We need Ruby to confirm HGH or not.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
His career path is a little sketchy too.

[CFOrfan]

as long as he doesn't get suspended i dont care. i really dont care if anyone uses hgh or not anymore to be honest, i'm over it.

[vitaminB]

I don't think that the size of his arms screams HGH. You could easily have arms that size by just lifting weights on a regular basis, say if you were a professional athlete and had time and access to those types of facilities.