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With Realignment Talks in the Air, I Cant Stay Away
#16
<!--quoteo(post=82550:date=Mar 12 2010, 04:47 PM:name=rok)-->QUOTE (rok @ Mar 12 2010, 04:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=82548:date=Mar 12 2010, 04:46 PM:name=Destined)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Destined @ Mar 12 2010, 04:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Who do we get rid of to the AL? Houston to the NL West and Arizona to the AL West?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Either or. If Houston stays, then they go to the NL West.
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The problem of Houston going to the west is that they are in the central time zone. With the unbalanced schedule, most of their road games within the division will be broadcast at 9pm, that would really kill their TV revenues.
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#17
<!--quoteo(post=82558:date=Mar 12 2010, 04:11 PM:name=Bricklayer)-->QUOTE (Bricklayer @ Mar 12 2010, 04:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=82550:date=Mar 12 2010, 04:47 PM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Mar 12 2010, 04:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=82548:date=Mar 12 2010, 04:46 PM:name=Destined)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Destined @ Mar 12 2010, 04:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Who do we get rid of to the AL? Houston to the NL West and Arizona to the AL West?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Either or. If Houston stays, then they go to the NL West.
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The problem of Houston going to the west is that they are in the central time zone. With the unbalanced schedule, most of their road games within the division will be broadcast at 9pm, that would really kill their TV revenues.
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Same thing the Rangers deal with.
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#18
The problem with entire season inter-league, as I stated, you would play every team home and road once with an average of each series being only five games, and 17 series being six. You would lose some of the flair and excitement that comes from the rivalries that have been formed.

On the flipside, only seeing each team twice a year would make those teams more meaningful and the rivalry could grow.
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<!--quoteo(post=82566:date=Mar 12 2010, 04:06 PM:name=AnnoCatuli)-->QUOTE (AnnoCatuli @ Mar 12 2010, 04:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->The problem with entire season inter-league, as I stated, you would play every team home and road once with an average of each series being only five games, and 17 series being six. You would lose some of the flair and excitement that comes from the rivalries that have been formed.

On the flipside, only seeing each team twice a year would make those teams more meaningful and the rivalry could grow.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
If you have two 15 team leagues, the game breakdown would be much like today, but there will always be two teams playing an inter-league series. For instance, instead of playing the AL in May and June only, your few series against AL competition would be sprinkled throughout the year.
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#20
Using that stance, it could work, if there were only 15 weeks in the MLB season. There would still be stretches where teams would have a series of days off in a row.
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#21
Expand a little and have four 4 team divisions in each league.
West, North Central, South Central, and East
Since 4 and 8 are the easiest to schedule and then all of the divisions are equal.
Nice balanced schedule with lots of games within your division and (don't know what to call it East or West conference?)

You could then have two wild cards one in each east/west, and the best record in each gets a bye first round.
2nd best record gets the WC game, that winner plays the best record.

Plenty of MLB candidates...Portland, Nashville, Memphis, Charlotte, OKC, Columbus, Birmingham, New Orleans
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#22
<!--quoteo(post=82582:date=Mar 12 2010, 11:46 PM:name=MW4)-->QUOTE (MW4 @ Mar 12 2010, 11:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Expand a little and have four 4 team divisions in each league.
West, North Central, South Central, and East
Since 4 and 8 are the easiest to schedule and then all of the divisions are equal.
Nice balanced schedule with lots of games within your division and (don't know what to call it East or West conference?)

You could then have two wild cards one in each east/west, and the best record in each gets a bye first round.
2nd best record gets the WC game, that winner plays the best record.

Plenty of MLB candidates...Portland, Nashville, Memphis, Charlotte, OKC, Columbus, Birmingham, New Orleans<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Baseball will expand again at some point and this approach probably makes the most sense.

Las Vegas would be another good market. Some day the moratorium on major league sports franchises in Vegas will go by the wayside. I like Vegas and Nashville for expansion.
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#23
I disagree, and hope they dont expand any further. Talent is already spread thin, and there are plenty of teams who cant seemingly compete. The Royals and the Pirates of two prime examples. If you expand any further, you could have a lot more who cant compete.

If you do, you need to find cities which will actually go to watch baseball. Florida is not a baseball state, and they usually draw flies no matter how good they do.

Portland, Nashville, Memphis, Charlotte, OKC, Columbus, Birmingham, New Orleans are all somewhat big cities, but are they baseball cities? There are minor league teams there, and they draw fans, so logic would say that they could potentially also draw fans at the major league level. Don't forget that minor league baseball tickets are much cheaper than major league tickets.

Id rather see them get rid of six teams, before adding two.

Start with the teams that cant draw. Despite recent success that would include the Ray and Marlins (again, Florida is a football state, not so much a baseball state). Add in the Nationals and Pirates who are always at the bottom of the barrel in attendance. and wins. The Royals (despite being a more historic team) should also be in that discussion. That leaves one team to add into the mix.

The 15 teams that draw the lowest attendance mark in 2009 are (from lowest attendance on up) Oakland,<b> Florida, Pittsburgh</b>, Cincinnati, <b>Kansas City</b>, Cleveland, <b>Washington</b>, <b>Tampa Bay</b>, Toronto, Baltimore, San Diego, Arizona, Seattle, Texas, White Sox.


As you can see, the five teams I already named are among the lowest draws. If you cant win, and cant draw you should go. The only team you can argue to keep from those five are the Rays. But again, they cant draw fans.

The sixth team to be eliminated could be any of those other teams. Once you get rid of the six, make the players on those teams (as well as minor league players) free agents or have a draft of sorts, expand the rosters a little bit up from the 25 man (maybe use the Allstar game roster size)

Realign the divisions, and play baseball with 24 teams. Redo the schedule, keeping the 162 game schedule. Keep the three divisions and wildcard, with four teams per division. Play one series against every team from the American League (three home or three away) That takes 36 games out of the mix and leaves you with 126 games. Play one series home and away with the other eight teams in your league outside of your division. That takes 48 more games out, leaving 78 games for divisional play or 26 games per team in your division. That would be good for eight separate series per team in your division. Four home and four on the road.
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#24
Of course, I wouldn't mind if they kept things as is either
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#25
If you're realigning...full geographical realignment.
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#26
East - Yankees Mets Red Sox Phillies Orioles
Atlantic - Nationals Jays Marlins Rays Braves
East Central - Pirates Indians Reds Tigers Royals
Central - Cubs WhiteSox Cards Brewers Twins
West Central - Mariners Rockies Rangers Astros Backs
West - Padres Dodgers Giants A's Angels

Royals become the dopple, but benefit from a small market division.

You could also flip them with the Twins.
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#27
<!--quoteo(post=82589:date=Mar 13 2010, 09:26 AM:name=Rappster)-->QUOTE (Rappster @ Mar 13 2010, 09:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->If you're realigning...full geographical realignment.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I was hoping you meant plate tectonics. I'd sign up for that.
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#28
<!--quoteo(post=82590:date=Mar 13 2010, 09:46 AM:name=Rappster)-->QUOTE (Rappster @ Mar 13 2010, 09:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->East - Yankees Mets Red Sox Phillies Orioles
Atlantic - Nationals Jays Marlins Rays Braves
East Central - Pirates Indians Reds Tigers Royals
Central - Cubs WhiteSox Cards Brewers Twins
West Central - Mariners Rockies Rangers Astros Backs
West - Padres Dodgers Giants A's Angels

Royals become the dopple, but benefit from a small market division.

You could also flip them with the Twins.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

East - Yankees Mets Red Sox Phillies Jays
Atlantic - Nationals Marlins Rays Braves Orioles
East Central - Pirates Indians Reds Tigers Royals
Central - Cubs WhiteSox Cards Brewers Twins
West Central - Mariners Rockies Rangers Astros Backs
West - Padres Dodgers Giants A's Angels

Flipping the Jays and Orioles makes better geographic sense.
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#29
I would be in utter hell if we had to compete with the Sox for a division title year in and year out. I can barely stomach the crosstown series as is.
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#30
<!--quoteo(post=82651:date=Mar 13 2010, 07:32 PM:name=rok)-->QUOTE (rok @ Mar 13 2010, 07:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I would be in utter hell if we had to compete with the Sox for a division title year in and year out. I can barely stomach the crosstown series as is.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
This. I'd have to leave the city if this happened.

<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->The 15 teams that draw the lowest attendance mark in 2009 are (from lowest attendance on up) Oakland, Florida, Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, Kansas City, Cleveland, Washington, Tampa Bay, Toronto, Baltimore, San Diego, Arizona, Seattle, Texas, <b>White Sox</b>.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Now you've got my attention. If they didn't win it all in 2005, they'd be much higher on that list, too...
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