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2010 Minor League Roundup
<!--quoteo(post=98546:date=May 27 2010, 09:03 AM:name=rok)-->QUOTE (rok @ May 27 2010, 09:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->So, I just read the Cashner news via Bleacher Nation. Very odd. In the short-run this could be really good for us, but I'm starting to wonder why the switch after watching him dominate as a starter for almost 2 months. I wonder how he will deal with this, or if it matters at all to him.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->


I don't think the Cubs want him to relieve, but unfortunately they NEED him to. If they wanted him to serve as a late inning guy, they probably could have called him up at the end of 2008, but they moved him to starter (which I think was the right move). Now that he is clearly ready for the majors, there isn't a spot for him in the rotation, so they making him a short man again.
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<!--quoteo(post=98549:date=May 27 2010, 09:18 AM:name=BT)-->QUOTE (BT @ May 27 2010, 09:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=98546:date=May 27 2010, 09:03 AM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ May 27 2010, 09:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->So, I just read the Cashner news via Bleacher Nation. Very odd. In the short-run this could be really good for us, but I'm starting to wonder why the switch after watching him dominate as a starter for almost 2 months. I wonder how he will deal with this, or if it matters at all to him.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->


I don't think the Cubs want him to relieve, but unfortunately they NEED him to. If they wanted him to serve as a late inning guy, they probably could have called him up at the end of 2008, but they moved him to starter (which I think was the right move). Now that he is clearly ready for the majors, there isn't a spot for him in the rotation, so they making him a short man again.
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I have no problem with it, and actually wanted this for a while, and still do actually. Then again, I didn't expect him to be so dominant as a starter, so that is the only part that confuses me. Hell, if he gets called up and is a lights out setup man, I see no downside.
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Perhaps Cashner's move to the bullpen has something to do with the trade market. If we trade one fo Gorz or Silva than a bullpen spot opens up. Z is moving to the rotation regardless and I can understand if Lou doesn't want 4 lefties in his pen (Russell, Marshall, Grabow, Gorz.) So either we eat Grabow's contract and DFA him or we trade Gorz. I guess we could also send Rusell back down, but he's been pretty good so I don't see how that helps us.
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<!--quoteo(post=98550:date=May 27 2010, 09:22 AM:name=rok)-->QUOTE (rok @ May 27 2010, 09:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=98549:date=May 27 2010, 09:18 AM:name=BT)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BT @ May 27 2010, 09:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=98546:date=May 27 2010, 09:03 AM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ May 27 2010, 09:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->So, I just read the Cashner news via Bleacher Nation. Very odd. In the short-run this could be really good for us, but I'm starting to wonder why the switch after watching him dominate as a starter for almost 2 months. I wonder how he will deal with this, or if it matters at all to him.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->


I don't think the Cubs want him to relieve, but unfortunately they NEED him to. If they wanted him to serve as a late inning guy, they probably could have called him up at the end of 2008, but they moved him to starter (which I think was the right move). Now that he is clearly ready for the majors, there isn't a spot for him in the rotation, so they making him a short man again.
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I have no problem with it, and actually wanted this for a while, and still do actually. Then again, I didn't expect him to be so dominant as a starter, so that is the only part that confuses me. Hell, if he gets called up and is a lights out setup man, I see no downside.
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Right now, unbelievably, the Cubs have 6 guys on the major league roster who should be starting for a major league team, plus in Cashner and possibly Jackson and Diamond, 3 other guys who would almost certainly be given a shot on most teams. And I'm probably forgetting guys.
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<!--quoteo(post=98553:date=May 27 2010, 09:42 AM:name=BT)-->QUOTE (BT @ May 27 2010, 09:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=98550:date=May 27 2010, 09:22 AM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ May 27 2010, 09:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=98549:date=May 27 2010, 09:18 AM:name=BT)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BT @ May 27 2010, 09:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=98546:date=May 27 2010, 09:03 AM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ May 27 2010, 09:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->So, I just read the Cashner news via Bleacher Nation. Very odd. In the short-run this could be really good for us, but I'm starting to wonder why the switch after watching him dominate as a starter for almost 2 months. I wonder how he will deal with this, or if it matters at all to him.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->


I don't think the Cubs want him to relieve, but unfortunately they NEED him to. If they wanted him to serve as a late inning guy, they probably could have called him up at the end of 2008, but they moved him to starter (which I think was the right move). Now that he is clearly ready for the majors, there isn't a spot for him in the rotation, so they making him a short man again.
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I have no problem with it, and actually wanted this for a while, and still do actually. Then again, I didn't expect him to be so dominant as a starter, so that is the only part that confuses me. Hell, if he gets called up and is a lights out setup man, I see no downside.
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Right now, unbelievably, the Cubs have 6 guys on the major league roster who should be starting for a major league team, plus in Cashner and possibly Jackson and Diamond, 3 other guys who would almost certainly be given a shot on most teams. And I'm probably forgetting guys.
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With this situation, we should be the '90s Braves...but for the lack of middle relief. Translate any number of quality starts into wins with a sorted out pen and the league would fear our pitching.
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<!--quoteo(post=98555:date=May 27 2010, 10:46 AM:name=jstraw)-->QUOTE (jstraw @ May 27 2010, 10:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=98553:date=May 27 2010, 09:42 AM:name=BT)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BT @ May 27 2010, 09:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=98550:date=May 27 2010, 09:22 AM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ May 27 2010, 09:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=98549:date=May 27 2010, 09:18 AM:name=BT)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BT @ May 27 2010, 09:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=98546:date=May 27 2010, 09:03 AM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ May 27 2010, 09:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->So, I just read the Cashner news via Bleacher Nation. Very odd. In the short-run this could be really good for us, but I'm starting to wonder why the switch after watching him dominate as a starter for almost 2 months. I wonder how he will deal with this, or if it matters at all to him.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->


I don't think the Cubs want him to relieve, but unfortunately they NEED him to. If they wanted him to serve as a late inning guy, they probably could have called him up at the end of 2008, but they moved him to starter (which I think was the right move). Now that he is clearly ready for the majors, there isn't a spot for him in the rotation, so they making him a short man again.
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I have no problem with it, and actually wanted this for a while, and still do actually. Then again, I didn't expect him to be so dominant as a starter, so that is the only part that confuses me. Hell, if he gets called up and is a lights out setup man, I see no downside.
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Right now, unbelievably, the Cubs have 6 guys on the major league roster who should be starting for a major league team, plus in Cashner and possibly Jackson and Diamond, 3 other guys who would almost certainly be given a shot on most teams. And I'm probably forgetting guys.
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With this situation, we should be the '90s Braves...but for the lack of middle relief. Translate any number of quality starts into wins with a sorted out pen and the league would fear our pitching.
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We don't have any pitcher as good as Maddux, Smoltz, or Glavine. All three were CY Young caliber at the time.
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<!--quoteo(post=98557:date=May 27 2010, 09:48 AM:name=Coldneck)-->QUOTE (Coldneck @ May 27 2010, 09:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=98555:date=May 27 2010, 10:46 AM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ May 27 2010, 10:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=98553:date=May 27 2010, 09:42 AM:name=BT)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BT @ May 27 2010, 09:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=98550:date=May 27 2010, 09:22 AM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ May 27 2010, 09:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=98549:date=May 27 2010, 09:18 AM:name=BT)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BT @ May 27 2010, 09:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=98546:date=May 27 2010, 09:03 AM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ May 27 2010, 09:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->So, I just read the Cashner news via Bleacher Nation. Very odd. In the short-run this could be really good for us, but I'm starting to wonder why the switch after watching him dominate as a starter for almost 2 months. I wonder how he will deal with this, or if it matters at all to him.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->


I don't think the Cubs want him to relieve, but unfortunately they NEED him to. If they wanted him to serve as a late inning guy, they probably could have called him up at the end of 2008, but they moved him to starter (which I think was the right move). Now that he is clearly ready for the majors, there isn't a spot for him in the rotation, so they making him a short man again.
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I have no problem with it, and actually wanted this for a while, and still do actually. Then again, I didn't expect him to be so dominant as a starter, so that is the only part that confuses me. Hell, if he gets called up and is a lights out setup man, I see no downside.
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Right now, unbelievably, the Cubs have 6 guys on the major league roster who should be starting for a major league team, plus in Cashner and possibly Jackson and Diamond, 3 other guys who would almost certainly be given a shot on most teams. And I'm probably forgetting guys.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

With this situation, we should be the '90s Braves...but for the lack of middle relief. Translate any number of quality starts into wins with a sorted out pen and the league would fear our pitching.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

We don't have any pitcher as good as Maddux, Smoltz, or Glavine. All three were CY Young caliber at the time.
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I'm prone to hyperbole.
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<!--quoteo(post=98576:date=May 27 2010, 11:39 AM:name=jstraw)-->QUOTE (jstraw @ May 27 2010, 11:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=98557:date=May 27 2010, 09:48 AM:name=Coldneck)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Coldneck @ May 27 2010, 09:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=98555:date=May 27 2010, 10:46 AM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ May 27 2010, 10:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=98553:date=May 27 2010, 09:42 AM:name=BT)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BT @ May 27 2010, 09:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=98550:date=May 27 2010, 09:22 AM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ May 27 2010, 09:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=98549:date=May 27 2010, 09:18 AM:name=BT)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BT @ May 27 2010, 09:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=98546:date=May 27 2010, 09:03 AM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ May 27 2010, 09:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->So, I just read the Cashner news via Bleacher Nation. Very odd. In the short-run this could be really good for us, but I'm starting to wonder why the switch after watching him dominate as a starter for almost 2 months. I wonder how he will deal with this, or if it matters at all to him.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->


I don't think the Cubs want him to relieve, but unfortunately they NEED him to. If they wanted him to serve as a late inning guy, they probably could have called him up at the end of 2008, but they moved him to starter (which I think was the right move). Now that he is clearly ready for the majors, there isn't a spot for him in the rotation, so they making him a short man again.
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I have no problem with it, and actually wanted this for a while, and still do actually. Then again, I didn't expect him to be so dominant as a starter, so that is the only part that confuses me. Hell, if he gets called up and is a lights out setup man, I see no downside.
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Right now, unbelievably, the Cubs have 6 guys on the major league roster who should be starting for a major league team, plus in Cashner and possibly Jackson and Diamond, 3 other guys who would almost certainly be given a shot on most teams. And I'm probably forgetting guys.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

With this situation, we should be the '90s Braves...but for the lack of middle relief. Translate any number of quality starts into wins with a sorted out pen and the league would fear our pitching.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

We don't have any pitcher as good as Maddux, Smoltz, or Glavine. All three were CY Young caliber at the time.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm prone to hyperbole.
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You had me at "I'm prone."
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<b>May 27:</b>

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<!--c1-->CODE<!--ec1-->                    R  H  E
Salt Lake (24-22)   8  12 1
Iowa (25-21)        5  8  2
WP: Sean O'Sullivan (5-4)
LP: Justin Berg (0-1)
SV: Bobby Cassevah (2)
HR: IOW - Brad Snyder (7)

Jay Jackson: GS, 4.0 IP, 2 R, 2 ER (2.19 ERA), 4 H, 1 BB, 5 K, HBP
Sam Fuld: 2-4 (.265), BB, K, SB (4)
Matt Camp: 1-2 (.297), 3B (1), RBI (14), R, 2 BB<!--c2--><!--ec2-->

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<!--c1-->CODE<!--ec1-->                     R  H  E
Tennessee (28-19)    2  4  1
Montgomery (25-21)   7  14 2
WP: Jeremy Hall (2-2)
LP: Craig Muschko (2-2)
HR: TEN - Matthew Spencer (5)

Muschko: GS, 4.1 IP, 5 R, 5 ER (4.73 ERA), 10 H, 1 BB, 4 K, HBP
Jeremy Papelbon: 2.2 IP, 0 R, 0 ER (6.00 ERA), 1 H, 0 BB, 1 K, BK
Spencer: 1-3 (.300), 2 RBI (19), R, BB<!--c2--><!--ec2-->

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<!--c1-->CODE<!--ec1-->                  R  H  E
Jupiter (14-33)   3  8  1
Daytona (23-25)   8  11 1
WP: Rafael Dolis (3-3)
LP: Graham Johnson (0-8)

Dolis: GS, 5.2 IP, 3 R, 3 ER (2.34 ERA), 6 H, 1 BB, 5 K, BK
Jake Optiz: 3-4 (.344), 3B (1), 3 RBI (10), 2 R
Ryan Flaherty: 2-4 (.342), 2 RBI (13), R, BB, K, SB (2)<!--c2--><!--ec2-->

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<!--c1-->CODE<!--ec1-->                       R  H  E
Cedar Rapids (29-18)   3  9  1
Peoria (26-22)         1  7  3
WP: Fabio Martinez Mesa (2-1)
LP: Jeffry Antigua (1-4)
SV: Mike Kenney (3)

Antigua: GS, 5.0 IP, 3 R, 1 ER (4.82 ERA), 7 H, 0 BB, 1 K
Frank Batista: 2.0 IP, 0 R, 0 ER (0.00 ERA), 0 H, 0 BB, 4 K
Matthew Cerda: 2-4 (.250), SB (2), E (7)<!--c2--><!--ec2-->
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I think Matthew Cerda has been a disappointment. I really want him to succeed.
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Jay Jackson back to the rotation, eh? I wondered if he'd take Cashner's spot. They say it was just because they wanted to see if Jackson could do it, but I suspect it was really because the big club decided they'd rather have Cashner in the big pen than Jackson.

Cashner had his first relief outing in that game, for what it's worth, and he struggled, but struck out two.
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<b>May 28:</b>

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Iowa (25-22)        5  5  1
Nashville (27-20)   6  10 2
WP: Chris Smith (1-1)
LP: Brian Schlitter (0-1)
HR: NSH - Luis Criz (3), Adam Heether (7)

J.R. Mathes: GS, 5.0 IP, 4 R, 3 ER (5.40 ERA), 7 H, 2 BB, 2 K
John Gaub: 2.0 IP, 0 R, 0 ER (3.38 ERA), 1 H, 1 BB, 3 K
Darwin Barney: 3-5 (.314), K<!--c2--><!--ec2-->

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Tennessee (28-20)    1  7  3
Montgomery (26-21)   6  10 0
WP: Jake McGee (1-4)
LP: Christopher Carpenter (3-2)

Carpenter: GS, 3.0 IP, 4 R, 2 ER (4.15 ERA), 5 H, 3 BB, 3 K, WP
Alex Maestri: 3.0 IP, 2 R, 1 ER (5.60 ERA), 4 H, 0 BB, 2 K
Blake Lalli: 3-4 (.306), 2B (9), R, K<!--c2--><!--ec2-->

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<!--c1-->CODE<!--ec1-->                  R  H  E
Jupiter (14-34)   3  7  1
Daytona (24-25)   4  12 0 (F/10)
WP: Luke Sommer (1-1)
LP: Jhan Martinez (0-1)

Christopher Archer: GS, 6.0 IP, 0 R, 0 ER (3.65 ERA), 1 H, 1 BB, 8 K
Rebel Ridling: 3-4 (.277), 2B (7), 2 RBI (17), BB
Ryan Flaherty: 2-4 (.350), 2B (9), 2 R, BB<!--c2--><!--ec2-->

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<!--c1-->CODE<!--ec1-->                 R  H  E
Beloit (25-24)   4  5  2
Peoria (27-22)   10 10 1
WP: Robert Whitenack (4-3)
LP: Miguel Munoz (1-4)
HR: PEO - Charles Thomas (2)

Whitenack: GS, 5.0 IP, 3 R, 3 ER (6.94 ERA), 2 H, 2 BB, 2 K, WP
Justin Bour: 2-5 (.296), 2B (13), 3 RBI (28), R, K
Mario Mercedes: 2-4 (.275), 2B (1), RBI (8)<!--c2--><!--ec2-->
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Holy crap, Chris Archer with another absolute domination.
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<!--quoteo(post=98952:date=May 29 2010, 07:27 AM:name=Ace)-->QUOTE (Ace @ May 29 2010, 07:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Holy crap, Chris Archer with another absolute domination.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
If the guy could get a little consistency going he would skyrocket through the Cubs top 10. Maybe he'll be a dominant reliever. Marmol lite?
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Glad to see Barney is playing well. I still really like him. He isn't going to be a star but I just like the way he plays. He is going to be a very useful backup IF for years to come.
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