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<!--quoteo(post=105756:date=Jul 16 2010, 07:24 AM:name=Ace)-->QUOTE (Ace @ Jul 16 2010, 07:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=105755:date=Jul 16 2010, 08:17 AM:name=Andy)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Andy @ Jul 16 2010, 08:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=105751:date=Jul 16 2010, 06:56 AM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Jul 16 2010, 06:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=105728:date=Jul 16 2010, 12:03 AM:name=funkster)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (funkster @ Jul 16 2010, 12:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->He's one of the kids we got in the DeRo deal isn't he?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yeah, together with Gaub and Stevens.
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Hendry fucked the pooch on that one, cuz DeRosa was our ultra-utility guy, super loved, Mr. Cub and went on to... errr wait.
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The DeRo deal, among others, is why I don't understand why some folks have a problem with Hendry being the guy to do the selling, even if he won't be the GM next year.
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I completely agree, and honestly, beyond that, I wouldn't have any problem keeping Hendry on (despite all of his shortcomings and the fact that I hate the idea of rewarding him for the last 2 seasons) IF we hired a true baseball VP or similar executive to oversee the entire organization and get us to the next level where we should be AND if that meant we also retained Wilken.
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<!--quoteo(post=105756:date=Jul 16 2010, 07:24 AM:name=Ace)-->QUOTE (Ace @ Jul 16 2010, 07:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=105755:date=Jul 16 2010, 08:17 AM:name=Andy)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Andy @ Jul 16 2010, 08:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=105751:date=Jul 16 2010, 06:56 AM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Jul 16 2010, 06:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=105728:date=Jul 16 2010, 12:03 AM:name=funkster)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (funkster @ Jul 16 2010, 12:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->He's one of the kids we got in the DeRo deal isn't he?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yeah, together with Gaub and Stevens.
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Hendry fucked the pooch on that one, cuz DeRosa was our ultra-utility guy, super loved, Mr. Cub and went on to... errr wait.
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The DeRo deal, among others, is why I don't understand why some folks have a problem with Hendry being the guy to do the selling, even if he won't be the GM next year.
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First people want to give Hendry credit for Silva's idiot savant turnaround...like he could see this diamond in the rough...and I don't buy it.
Now we're supposed to give Hendry credit for trading DeRo for a case of tape because he somehow knew that two years later the guy would wind up on the DL?
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<!--quoteo(post=105774:date=Jul 16 2010, 10:46 AM:name=jstraw)-->QUOTE (jstraw @ Jul 16 2010, 10:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=105756:date=Jul 16 2010, 07:24 AM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Jul 16 2010, 07:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=105755:date=Jul 16 2010, 08:17 AM:name=Andy)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Andy @ Jul 16 2010, 08:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=105751:date=Jul 16 2010, 06:56 AM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Jul 16 2010, 06:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=105728:date=Jul 16 2010, 12:03 AM:name=funkster)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (funkster @ Jul 16 2010, 12:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->He's one of the kids we got in the DeRo deal isn't he?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yeah, together with Gaub and Stevens.
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Hendry fucked the pooch on that one, cuz DeRosa was our ultra-utility guy, super loved, Mr. Cub and went on to... errr wait.
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The DeRo deal, among others, is why I don't understand why some folks have a problem with Hendry being the guy to do the selling, even if he won't be the GM next year.
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First people want to give Hendry credit for Silva's idiot savant turnaround...like he could see this diamond in the rough...and I don't buy it.
Now we're supposed to give Hendry credit for trading DeRo for a case of tape because he somehow knew that two years later the guy would wind up on the DL?
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case of tape? those 3 prospects are doing good. We got a great return for Derosa
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<!--quoteo(post=105783:date=Jul 16 2010, 10:58 AM:name=Mikey)-->QUOTE (Mikey @ Jul 16 2010, 10:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=105774:date=Jul 16 2010, 10:46 AM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Jul 16 2010, 10:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=105756:date=Jul 16 2010, 07:24 AM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Jul 16 2010, 07:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=105755:date=Jul 16 2010, 08:17 AM:name=Andy)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Andy @ Jul 16 2010, 08:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=105751:date=Jul 16 2010, 06:56 AM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Jul 16 2010, 06:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=105728:date=Jul 16 2010, 12:03 AM:name=funkster)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (funkster @ Jul 16 2010, 12:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->He's one of the kids we got in the DeRo deal isn't he?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yeah, together with Gaub and Stevens.
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Hendry fucked the pooch on that one, cuz DeRosa was our ultra-utility guy, super loved, Mr. Cub and went on to... errr wait.
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The DeRo deal, among others, is why I don't understand why some folks have a problem with Hendry being the guy to do the selling, even if he won't be the GM next year.
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First people want to give Hendry credit for Silva's idiot savant turnaround...like he could see this diamond in the rough...and I don't buy it.
Now we're supposed to give Hendry credit for trading DeRo for a case of tape because he somehow knew that two years later the guy would wind up on the DL?
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case of tape? those 3 prospects are doing good. We got a great return for Derosa
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Agreed. That's what Ace was referring to, not DeRo being hurt, and I think he's right. We got good return on that deal.
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Yeah, together with Gaub and Stevens.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Hendry fucked the pooch on that one, cuz DeRosa was our ultra-utility guy, super loved, Mr. Cub and went on to... errr wait.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The DeRo deal, among others, is why I don't understand why some folks have a problem with Hendry being the guy to do the selling, even if he won't be the GM next year.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
First people want to give Hendry credit for Silva's idiot savant turnaround...like he could see this diamond in the rough...and I don't buy it.
Now we're supposed to give Hendry credit for trading DeRo for a case of tape because he somehow knew that two years later the guy would wind up on the DL?
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case of tape? those 3 prospects are doing good. We got a great return for Derosa
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Agreed. That's what Ace was referring to, not DeRo being hurt, and I think he's right. We got good return on that deal.
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And he got decent return for a guy when he was at the peak of his worth. DeRo, was awesome for the Cubs, but he fell apart really quickly after being traded.
He went from an OPS of .857 with the Cubs, to .799 with Cleveland, to .696 with the Cardinals and .537 with the Giants.
So for one guy, who had just peaked in his career, we got 3 pitchers that will all pitch for the big league team and be decent. You can argue that Hendry isn't very good with Free Agency and locks players into contracts that are shitty for the club, but he's been pretty damn good with his trades.
I got nothin'.
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<b> July 16:</b>
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Iowa (50-42) 4 10 0
Oklahoma City (50-40) 0 4 1
WP: Jeff Samardzija (6-1)
LP: Rich Harden (0-1)
HR: IOW - Bryan LaHair (11)
Samardzija: GS, 5.0 IP, 0 R, 0 ER (2.85 ERA), 2 H, 4 BB, 3 K
Hung-Wen Chen: 3.0 IP, 0 R, 0 ER (5.00 ERA), 2 H, 0 BB, 2 K
LaHair: 2-4 (.312), RBI (43), 2 R, K<!--c2--><!--ec2-->
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Chattanooga (10-12) 6 10 0
Tennessee (12-10) 8 13 3
WP: Ryan Buchter (7-0)
LP: Timothy Sexton (3-10)
HR: CHT - Kyle Russell (3), Jerry Sands (7); TEN - Josh Vitters (7)
Christopher Carpenter: GS, 4.0 IP, 0 R, 0 ER (3.04 ERA), 3 H, 4 BB, 4 K
Vitters: 3-5 (.219), 2 2B (9), 5 RBI (25), R, K, E (13)
Tony Campana: 3-4 (.325), 2B (14), RBI (20), 2 R, BB, K, SB (29)<!--c2--><!--ec2-->
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Fort Myers (9-11) 7 11 3
Daytona (12-9) 3 5 2
WP: Bruce Pugh (4-7)
LP: Chris Siegfried (1-5)
HR: FTM - Nathan Hanson (5, 6); Junior Lake (4)
Brooks Raley: GS, 4.0 IP, 1 R, 0 ER (4.69 ERA), 3 H, 3 BB, 2 K
Lake: 1-4 (.242), RBI (24), R, K, E (31)
Jake Optiz: 1-3 (.260), BB, K<!--c2--><!--ec2-->
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Boise (15-13) 2 8 0
Salem-Keizer (13-15) 3 5 1 (F/11)
WP: Kaohi Downing (1-1)
LP: Carlos Rojas (2-2)
HR: SK - Daniel Brock (2), Ryan Scoma (1)
Matthe Loosen: GS, 4.0 IP, 2 R, 2 ER (4.05 ERA), 2 H, 1 BB, 4 K
Austin Kirk: 5.0 IP, 0 R, 0 ER (3.76 ERA), 1 H, 2 BB, 9 K, WP, HBP
Pierre LePage: 2-5 (.319), RBI (15), K, SB (2)<!--c2--><!--ec2-->
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Padres (13-23) 1 6 3
Cubs 1 (30-11) 5 6 0
WP: Starling Peralta (1-2)
LP: Juan Corpas (0-2)
SV: Roderick Pichardo (6)
Peralta: GS, 5.0 IP, 1 R, 1 ER (2.86 ERA), 4 H, 1 BB, 8 K, WP
Pichardo: 4.0 IP, 0 R, 0 ER (0.38 ERA), 2 H, 1 BB, 3 K
Hector Suarez: 2-3 (.227), RBI (5), R, BB, K<!--c2--><!--ec2-->
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Cubs 2 (8-32) 2 4 2
Yankees 1 (25-15) 4 8 1
WP: Edison Mejia (2-0)
LP: Ramon Reyes (0-2)
Reyes: GS, 6.0 IP, 0 R, 0 ER (6.55 ERA), 3 H, 1 BB, 4 K, WP, HBP
Denis Estrada: 1.1 IP, 0 R, 0 ER (4.19 ERA), 1 H, 1 BB, 4 K
Gregori Gonzalez: 1-4 (.296), RBI (16), R, K<!--c2--><!--ec2-->
This is not some silly theory that's unsupported and deserves being mocked by photos of Xena.
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Lots of good performances.
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Who is this Samardzija kid? He's fucking good!
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<!--quoteo(post=105952:date=Jul 17 2010, 10:48 AM:name=funkster)-->QUOTE (funkster @ Jul 17 2010, 10:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Who is this Samardzija kid? He's fucking good!<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Fuck you straight to hell.
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<!--quoteo(post=105964:date=Jul 17 2010, 12:17 PM:name=Ace)-->QUOTE (Ace @ Jul 17 2010, 12:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Trade him.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Ding.
....to the Bears.
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<b> July 17:</b>
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Iowa (51-42) 9 12 0
Oklahoma City (50-41) 4 10 0
WP: Jay Jackson (6-6)
LP: Guillermo Moscoso (5-3)
SV: David Cales (1)
HR: IOW - Welington Castillo (10), Brad Snyder (13, 14); OKC - Ryan Garko (11)
Jackson: GS, 5.0 IP, 1 R, 1 ER (3.55 ERA), 7 H, 1 BB, 6 K
Castillo: 2-4 (.251), 2 RBI (46), R, BB, PB (5)
Snyder: 3-4 (.305), 6 RBI (58), 2 R, BB<!--c2--><!--ec2-->
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Montgomery (14-9) 5 12 0
Tennessee (12-11) 4 15 2 (F/14)
WP: Paul Phillips (4-2)
LP: Ryan Buchter (7-1)
HR: MON - Emeel Salem (4); TEN - Robinson Chirinos (12)
Craig Muschko: GS, 6.0 IP, 2 R< 2 ER (4.07 ERA), 6 H, 0 BB, 3 K
Steve Clevenger: 3-7 (.278), 2B (11), CS (4)
Josh Vitters: 2-6 (.222), 2 2B (11), BB<!--c2--><!--ec2-->
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Fort Myers (10-11) 9 6 4
Daytona (12-10) 4 10 2
WP: Santos Arias (2-2)
LP: Christopher Rusin (3-3)
HR: FTM - Evan Bigelow (1), Nathan Hanson (7), Brian Dozier (2); DAY - Rebel Ridling (9), Mark Reed (1)
Rusin: GS, 4.2 IP, 7 R, 2 ER (3.49 ERA), 3 H, 4 BB, 5 K, WP, HBP
Ridling: 2-4 (.276), 2 RBI (46), R, K, E (5)
Reed: 2-4 (.214), RBI (13), R, SB (3)<!--c2--><!--ec2-->
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Bowling Green (10-12) 0 2 0
Peoria (8-12) 5 11 0
WP: Robert Whitenack (8-7)
LP: Kyle Lobstein (6-5)
HR: PEO - Luis Flores (2)
Whitenack: GS, 7.0 IP, 0 R, 0 ER (5.42 ERA), 2 H, 0 BB, 4 K, HBP
Flores: 1-2 (.208), 2 RBI (7), 2 R, HBP
Justin Bour: 2-2 (.280), RBI (53), 2 BB, SB (1)<!--c2--><!--ec2-->
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Boise (16-13) 10 18 2
Salem-Keizer (13-16) 3 9 5
WP: Eduardo Figueroa (1-1)
LP: Shane Kaufman (1-1)
Figueroa: GS, 5.0 IP, 1 R, 1 ER (3.38 ERA), 6 H, 2 BB, 3 K
Arismendy Alcantara: 4-5 (.250), 2B (1), R
Richard Jones: 3-5 (.308), 2B (10), 3B (1), 3 RBI (23), 2 R, K<!--c2--><!--ec2-->
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Mariners (9-13) 11 17 2
Cubs (10-11) 13 17 1
WP: Austin Reed (2-0)
LP: Kody Kurowski (0-1)
SV: Jadel Mendez (1)
Jeff Gray: GS, 1.0 IP, 1 R, 1 ER (9.00 ERA), 2 H, 0 BB, 0 K
Anthony Giansanti: 3-5 (.339), RBI (9), 2 R, SB (2)
Chad Noble: 2-4 (.263), 2B (2), 2 RBI (7), 2 R, BB, K<!--c2--><!--ec2-->
This is not some silly theory that's unsupported and deserves being mocked by photos of Xena.
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Haven't been seeing Jackson's name on these scorecards lately...has he been cooling off?
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