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<!--quoteo(post=93092:date=Apr 27 2010, 03:51 PM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ Apr 27 2010, 03:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Fucking PIVEN, too?
What in holy hell is going on?
Piven and Cusack grew up in Evanston -- the same town I grew up in. Nobody fucking roots for the White Sox in Evanston. They're full of shit. They're doing this shit because they feel like they have to because of their celebrity. But it doesn't give them a pass. Fuck all of them.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I don't know how else to explain this to you. Cubs fans who don't live in Chicago don't hate the Sox the way we do. They are not exposed to the constant douchebaggery.
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<!--quoteo(post=93203:date=Apr 28 2010, 08:17 AM:name=BT)-->QUOTE (BT @ Apr 28 2010, 08:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=93092:date=Apr 27 2010, 03:51 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Apr 27 2010, 03:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Fucking PIVEN, too?
What in holy hell is going on?
Piven and Cusack grew up in Evanston -- the same town I grew up in. Nobody fucking roots for the White Sox in Evanston. They're full of shit. They're doing this shit because they feel like they have to because of their celebrity. But it doesn't give them a pass. Fuck all of them.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I don't know how else to explain this to you. Cubs fans who don't live in Chicago don't hate the Sox the way we do. They are not exposed to the constant douchebaggery.
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Evanston is Chicago.
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<!--quoteo(post=93204:date=Apr 28 2010, 08:20 AM:name=veryzer)-->QUOTE (veryzer @ Apr 28 2010, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=93203:date=Apr 28 2010, 08:17 AM:name=BT)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BT @ Apr 28 2010, 08:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=93092:date=Apr 27 2010, 03:51 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Apr 27 2010, 03:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Fucking PIVEN, too?
What in holy hell is going on?
Piven and Cusack grew up in Evanston -- the same town I grew up in. Nobody fucking roots for the White Sox in Evanston. They're full of shit. They're doing this shit because they feel like they have to because of their celebrity. But it doesn't give them a pass. Fuck all of them.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I don't know how else to explain this to you. Cubs fans who don't live in Chicago don't hate the Sox the way we do. They are not exposed to the constant douchebaggery.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Evanston is Chicago.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
John Cusack doesn't live in Evanston.
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<!--quoteo(post=93208:date=Apr 28 2010, 08:32 AM:name=BT)-->QUOTE (BT @ Apr 28 2010, 08:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=93204:date=Apr 28 2010, 08:20 AM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Apr 28 2010, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=93203:date=Apr 28 2010, 08:17 AM:name=BT)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BT @ Apr 28 2010, 08:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=93092:date=Apr 27 2010, 03:51 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Apr 27 2010, 03:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Fucking PIVEN, too?
What in holy hell is going on?
Piven and Cusack grew up in Evanston -- the same town I grew up in. Nobody fucking roots for the White Sox in Evanston. They're full of shit. They're doing this shit because they feel like they have to because of their celebrity. But it doesn't give them a pass. Fuck all of them.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I don't know how else to explain this to you. Cubs fans who don't live in Chicago don't hate the Sox the way we do. They are not exposed to the constant douchebaggery.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Evanston is Chicago.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
John Cusack doesn't live in Evanston.
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He grew up in Evanston. If he doesn't know better, he's an idiot.
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What in holy hell is going on?
Piven and Cusack grew up in Evanston -- the same town I grew up in. Nobody fucking roots for the White Sox in Evanston. They're full of shit. They're doing this shit because they feel like they have to because of their celebrity. But it doesn't give them a pass. Fuck all of them.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I don't know how else to explain this to you. Cubs fans who don't live in Chicago don't hate the Sox the way we do. They are not exposed to the constant douchebaggery.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Evanston is Chicago.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
John Cusack doesn't live in Evanston.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
He grew up in Evanston. If he doesn't know better, he's an idiot.
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I'm roughly Cusack's age. I grew up in Homewood. When I was 10, my second favorite team in baseball was the White Sox. When I was in high school, in 1983, I watched Julio Cruz score the winning run that clinched the division. I rooted for Bannister, Dotson, Hoyt, and Burns because I thought their second half run was amazing. When they lost in the playoffs, I was not upset, but that was ONLY because I was jealous of them, and didn't want the Sox to win before the Cubs did.
When I went to college, I went to U of I, where everyone was a Cubs fan or a Cards fan. I realized at that point, that I hated the Cardinals more than any other team in existence. I didn't hate them before I hung out with their fans though.
It wasn't until after college, when I moved back to Chicago, when I started listening to sports talk radio, when I started listening to Hawk Harrelson, when I started dealing with Sox fans on a regular basis, when the internet made listening to their idiocy much easier, that I began to hate them with the white hot fury I hate them with now.
Cusack, Piven, et al, never have gone through that last phase. Had I moved to California after college, I'd still hate the Sox, but nothing like the way I hate them now.
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What in holy hell is going on?
Piven and Cusack grew up in Evanston -- the same town I grew up in. Nobody fucking roots for the White Sox in Evanston. They're full of shit. They're doing this shit because they feel like they have to because of their celebrity. But it doesn't give them a pass. Fuck all of them.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I don't know how else to explain this to you. Cubs fans who don't live in Chicago don't hate the Sox the way we do. They are not exposed to the constant douchebaggery.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Evanston is Chicago.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
John Cusack doesn't live in Evanston.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
He grew up in Evanston. If he doesn't know better, he's an idiot.
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I'm roughly Cusack's age. I grew up in Homewood. When I was 10, my second favorite team in baseball was the White Sox. When I was in high school, in 1983, I watched Julio Cruz score the winning run that clinched the division. I rooted for Bannister, Dotson, Hoyt, and Burns because I thought their second half run was amazing. When they lost in the playoffs, I was not upset, but that was ONLY because I was jealous of them, and didn't want the Sox to win before the Cubs did.
When I went to college, I went to U of I, where everyone was a Cubs fan or a Cards fan. I realized at that point, that I hated the Cardinals more than any other team in existence. I didn't hate them before I hung out with their fans though.
It wasn't until after college, when I moved back to Chicago, when I started listening to sports talk radio, when I started listening to Hawk Harrelson, when I started dealing with Sox fans on a regular basis, when the internet made listening to their idiocy much easier, that I began to hate them with the white hot fury I hate them with now.
Cusack, Piven, et al, never have gone through that last phase. Had I moved to California after college, I'd still hate the Sox, but nothing like the way I hate them now.
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Wow, all that White Sox love and the Cubs still hired you.
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<!--quoteo(post=93215:date=Apr 28 2010, 10:05 AM:name=veryzer)-->QUOTE (veryzer @ Apr 28 2010, 10:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=93214:date=Apr 28 2010, 10:00 AM:name=BT)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BT @ Apr 28 2010, 10:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=93212:date=Apr 28 2010, 09:32 AM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Apr 28 2010, 09:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=93208:date=Apr 28 2010, 08:32 AM:name=BT)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BT @ Apr 28 2010, 08:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=93204:date=Apr 28 2010, 08:20 AM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Apr 28 2010, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=93203:date=Apr 28 2010, 08:17 AM:name=BT)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BT @ Apr 28 2010, 08:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=93092:date=Apr 27 2010, 03:51 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Apr 27 2010, 03:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Fucking PIVEN, too?
What in holy hell is going on?
Piven and Cusack grew up in Evanston -- the same town I grew up in. Nobody fucking roots for the White Sox in Evanston. They're full of shit. They're doing this shit because they feel like they have to because of their celebrity. But it doesn't give them a pass. Fuck all of them.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I don't know how else to explain this to you. Cubs fans who don't live in Chicago don't hate the Sox the way we do. They are not exposed to the constant douchebaggery.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Evanston is Chicago.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
John Cusack doesn't live in Evanston.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
He grew up in Evanston. If he doesn't know better, he's an idiot.
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I'm roughly Cusack's age. I grew up in Homewood. When I was 10, my second favorite team in baseball was the White Sox. When I was in high school, in 1983, I watched Julio Cruz score the winning run that clinched the division. I rooted for Bannister, Dotson, Hoyt, and Burns because I thought their second half run was amazing. When they lost in the playoffs, I was not upset, but that was ONLY because I was jealous of them, and didn't want the Sox to win before the Cubs did.
When I went to college, I went to U of I, where everyone was a Cubs fan or a Cards fan. I realized at that point, that I hated the Cardinals more than any other team in existence. I didn't hate them before I hung out with their fans though.
It wasn't until after college, when I moved back to Chicago, when I started listening to sports talk radio, when I started listening to Hawk Harrelson, when I started dealing with Sox fans on a regular basis, when the internet made listening to their idiocy much easier, that I began to hate them with the white hot fury I hate them with now.
Cusack, Piven, et al, never have gone through that last phase. Had I moved to California after college, I'd still hate the Sox, but nothing like the way I hate them now.
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Wow, all that White Sox love and the Cubs still hired you.
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<!--quoteo(post=93214:date=Apr 28 2010, 10:00 AM:name=BT)-->QUOTE (BT @ Apr 28 2010, 10:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=93212:date=Apr 28 2010, 09:32 AM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Apr 28 2010, 09:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=93208:date=Apr 28 2010, 08:32 AM:name=BT)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BT @ Apr 28 2010, 08:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=93204:date=Apr 28 2010, 08:20 AM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Apr 28 2010, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=93203:date=Apr 28 2010, 08:17 AM:name=BT)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BT @ Apr 28 2010, 08:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=93092:date=Apr 27 2010, 03:51 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Apr 27 2010, 03:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Fucking PIVEN, too?
What in holy hell is going on?
Piven and Cusack grew up in Evanston -- the same town I grew up in. Nobody fucking roots for the White Sox in Evanston. They're full of shit. They're doing this shit because they feel like they have to because of their celebrity. But it doesn't give them a pass. Fuck all of them.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I don't know how else to explain this to you. Cubs fans who don't live in Chicago don't hate the Sox the way we do. They are not exposed to the constant douchebaggery.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Evanston is Chicago.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
John Cusack doesn't live in Evanston.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
He grew up in Evanston. If he doesn't know better, he's an idiot.
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I'm roughly Cusack's age. I grew up in Homewood. When I was 10, my second favorite team in baseball was the White Sox. When I was in high school, in 1983, I watched Julio Cruz score the winning run that clinched the division. I rooted for Bannister, Dotson, Hoyt, and Burns because I thought their second half run was amazing. When they lost in the playoffs, I was not upset, but that was ONLY because I was jealous of them, and didn't want the Sox to win before the Cubs did.
When I went to college, I went to U of I, where everyone was a Cubs fan or a Cards fan. I realized at that point, that I hated the Cardinals more than any other team in existence. I didn't hate them before I hung out with their fans though.
It wasn't until after college, when I moved back to Chicago, when I started listening to sports talk radio, when I started listening to Hawk Harrelson, when I started dealing with Sox fans on a regular basis, when the internet made listening to their idiocy much easier, that I began to hate them with the white hot fury I hate them with now.
Cusack, Piven, et al, never have gone through that last phase. Had I moved to California after college, I'd still hate the Sox, but nothing like the way I hate them now.
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When I went to Jeremy's dad's workshops I think Jeremy was still in high school...and I'd see Cusack the around once in a while...this was in the mid-'80s when Cusack was still scuffling and I lived in Evanston. Maybe they didn't live through 2005 in Chicago but then neither did I. Neither of them have cut themselves off from Chicago. They go back much more often than I do and go to many more Cubs games than I do. They have no excuses. They can't not know. I'm sorry...they can do as they please but there's no scenario where the douchbaggery is rinsed away.
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What in holy hell is going on?
Piven and Cusack grew up in Evanston -- the same town I grew up in. Nobody fucking roots for the White Sox in Evanston. They're full of shit. They're doing this shit because they feel like they have to because of their celebrity. But it doesn't give them a pass. Fuck all of them.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I don't know how else to explain this to you. Cubs fans who don't live in Chicago don't hate the Sox the way we do. They are not exposed to the constant douchebaggery.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Evanston is Chicago.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
John Cusack doesn't live in Evanston.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
He grew up in Evanston. If he doesn't know better, he's an idiot.
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I'm roughly Cusack's age. I grew up in Homewood. When I was 10, my second favorite team in baseball was the White Sox. When I was in high school, in 1983, I watched Julio Cruz score the winning run that clinched the division. I rooted for Bannister, Dotson, Hoyt, and Burns because I thought their second half run was amazing. When they lost in the playoffs, I was not upset, but that was ONLY because I was jealous of them, and didn't want the Sox to win before the Cubs did.
When I went to college, I went to U of I, where everyone was a Cubs fan or a Cards fan. I realized at that point, that I hated the Cardinals more than any other team in existence. I didn't hate them before I hung out with their fans though.
It wasn't until after college, when I moved back to Chicago, when I started listening to sports talk radio, when I started listening to Hawk Harrelson, when I started dealing with Sox fans on a regular basis, when the internet made listening to their idiocy much easier, that I began to hate them with the white hot fury I hate them with now.
Cusack, Piven, et al, never have gone through that last phase. Had I moved to California after college, I'd still hate the Sox, but nothing like the way I hate them now.
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When I went to Jeremy's dad's workshops I think Jeremy was still in high school...and I'd see Cusack the around once in a while...this was in the mid-'80s when Cusack was still scuffling and I lived in Evanston. Maybe they didn't live through 2005 in Chicago but then neither did I. Neither of them have cut themselves off from Chicago. They go back much more often than I do and go to many more Cubs games than I do. They have no excuses. They can't not know. I'm sorry...they can do as they please but there's no scenario where the douchbaggery is rinsed away.
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Where in Evanston did you used to live? Did you go to school there?
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What in holy hell is going on?
Piven and Cusack grew up in Evanston -- the same town I grew up in. Nobody fucking roots for the White Sox in Evanston. They're full of shit. They're doing this shit because they feel like they have to because of their celebrity. But it doesn't give them a pass. Fuck all of them.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I don't know how else to explain this to you. Cubs fans who don't live in Chicago don't hate the Sox the way we do. They are not exposed to the constant douchebaggery.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Evanston is Chicago.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
John Cusack doesn't live in Evanston.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
He grew up in Evanston. If he doesn't know better, he's an idiot.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm roughly Cusack's age. I grew up in Homewood. When I was 10, my second favorite team in baseball was the White Sox. When I was in high school, in 1983, I watched Julio Cruz score the winning run that clinched the division. I rooted for Bannister, Dotson, Hoyt, and Burns because I thought their second half run was amazing. When they lost in the playoffs, I was not upset, but that was ONLY because I was jealous of them, and didn't want the Sox to win before the Cubs did.
When I went to college, I went to U of I, where everyone was a Cubs fan or a Cards fan. I realized at that point, that I hated the Cardinals more than any other team in existence. I didn't hate them before I hung out with their fans though.
It wasn't until after college, when I moved back to Chicago, when I started listening to sports talk radio, when I started listening to Hawk Harrelson, when I started dealing with Sox fans on a regular basis, when the internet made listening to their idiocy much easier, that I began to hate them with the white hot fury I hate them with now.
Cusack, Piven, et al, never have gone through that last phase. Had I moved to California after college, I'd still hate the Sox, but nothing like the way I hate them now.
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When I went to Jeremy's dad's workshops I think Jeremy was still in high school...and I'd see Cusack the around once in a while...this was in the mid-'80s when Cusack was still scuffling and I lived in Evanston. Maybe they didn't live through 2005 in Chicago but then neither did I. Neither of them have cut themselves off from Chicago. They go back much more often than I do and go to many more Cubs games than I do. They have no excuses. They can't not know. I'm sorry...they can do as they please but there's no scenario where the douchbaggery is rinsed away.
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Where in Evanston did you used to live? Did you go to school there?
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No. My brother did though (high school). My mom moved there from the city after I moved away. When I got sick in '84, I came back and lived with her. Fuck if I can remember the address it was a block from the lake and a couple blocks east of the Domino super market...and my brother and I bought that condo so she could stop paying rent. After I recovered I rented a Robinson apartment at 828 Reba Place.
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<!--quoteo(post=93215:date=Apr 28 2010, 10:05 AM:name=veryzer)-->QUOTE (veryzer @ Apr 28 2010, 10:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=93214:date=Apr 28 2010, 10:00 AM:name=BT)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BT @ Apr 28 2010, 10:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=93212:date=Apr 28 2010, 09:32 AM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Apr 28 2010, 09:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=93208:date=Apr 28 2010, 08:32 AM:name=BT)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BT @ Apr 28 2010, 08:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=93204:date=Apr 28 2010, 08:20 AM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Apr 28 2010, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=93203:date=Apr 28 2010, 08:17 AM:name=BT)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BT @ Apr 28 2010, 08:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=93092:date=Apr 27 2010, 03:51 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Apr 27 2010, 03:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Fucking PIVEN, too?
What in holy hell is going on?
Piven and Cusack grew up in Evanston -- the same town I grew up in. Nobody fucking roots for the White Sox in Evanston. They're full of shit. They're doing this shit because they feel like they have to because of their celebrity. But it doesn't give them a pass. Fuck all of them.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I don't know how else to explain this to you. Cubs fans who don't live in Chicago don't hate the Sox the way we do. They are not exposed to the constant douchebaggery.
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Evanston is Chicago.
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John Cusack doesn't live in Evanston.
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He grew up in Evanston. If he doesn't know better, he's an idiot.
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I'm roughly Cusack's age. I grew up in Homewood. When I was 10, my second favorite team in baseball was the White Sox. When I was in high school, in 1983, I watched Julio Cruz score the winning run that clinched the division. I rooted for Bannister, Dotson, Hoyt, and Burns because I thought their second half run was amazing. When they lost in the playoffs, I was not upset, but that was ONLY because I was jealous of them, and didn't want the Sox to win before the Cubs did.
When I went to college, I went to U of I, where everyone was a Cubs fan or a Cards fan. I realized at that point, that I hated the Cardinals more than any other team in existence. I didn't hate them before I hung out with their fans though.
It wasn't until after college, when I moved back to Chicago, when I started listening to sports talk radio, when I started listening to Hawk Harrelson, when I started dealing with Sox fans on a regular basis, when the internet made listening to their idiocy much easier, that I began to hate them with the white hot fury I hate them with now.
Cusack, Piven, et al, never have gone through that last phase. Had I moved to California after college, I'd still hate the Sox, but nothing like the way I hate them now.
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Wow, all that White Sox love and the Cubs still hired you.
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I grew up in the south west burbs and was surrounded by sox fans. My dad was always a Cubs fan so that's where I learned it. Perhaps I was lucky enough to have been introduced to the biggest 5 year old dickbag sox fan when I was in kindergarten because I fucking hated the sox ever since then. I knew they existed before then, but they never registered with me. Watching night games on channel 44 with umpires wearing red jackets, garbage flying across the outfield, dirtbags taking showers in the bleachers, it all confused my innocent mind. Watching Cubs games in the daylight was like watching paradise. Comiskey was a hellscape in comparison. Then I met the one person that forever made me hate the sox on my first day of school. For the rest of grade and middle school this person was the embodiment of all that I hated about sox fans.
Now, when I meet someone, they can be the absolute coolest most generous humble soul, if they say they are a sox fan, they become a little less human in my eyes.
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<!--quoteo(post=93214:date=Apr 28 2010, 11:00 AM:name=BT)-->QUOTE (BT @ Apr 28 2010, 11:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I grew up in Homewood.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Did as much of your income as mine go to the pony-tailed dude who owned Record Swap? I grew up in Lynwood. However, I never was a Sox fan. My dad bet money on them to win the '59 series. After he lost that 50 cents (he was 12), he swore off the Sox and embraced the Cubs. That's why our TV was always tuned to channel 9 and not channel 44.
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I didn't know any Sox fans when I was a kid. I remember meeting a couple in Little League, and being baffled by the idea that anyone would like the Sox more than the Cubs.
But I liked the old Comiskey. I liked the fire works. I loved the CF shower. It was also closer to my house. I used to go to Sox games as a kid, and no one talked shit about the Cubs there. Going to Cubs games was always 100 times better than Sox games, but I had no animosity. I even ran into Harry Caray at a Sox game when I was a kid.
All I'm saying is that if I left Chicago permanently after high school, it's conceivable I wouldn't despise the Sox the way I do now.
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Absolutely. I never hated the Sox until I met my wife and started spending more time in the Chicago area. If I had married someone from Iowa or Minnesota or something, I don't think the Sox hatred would even be a blip on my radar. Sox fans are real hard to come by, if you're not within the general vicinity of Chicago.
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Waukegan is lousy with pinche White sox fans. Cub fans outnumber them for sure, but the few White sox fans around are vocal. Of course, around my neighborhood, it's all about soccer, which I hate almost as much as the White Sox.
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