Fire Lou

[Brock]

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Winner.

[jstraw]

<!--quoteo(post=100891:date=Jun 11 2010, 01:36 PM:name=veryzer)-->QUOTE (veryzer @ Jun 11 2010, 01:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=100859:date=Jun 11 2010, 11:49 AM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Jun 11 2010, 11:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=100850:date=Jun 11 2010, 11:30 AM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Jun 11 2010, 11:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->"And Steve Stone? He's got enough problems doing what he does with the White Sox. What job has he had in baseball besides talking on television or radio? What has he done?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

*Cough* (Cy Young) *cough*.
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I'm gonna go out on a limb and suggest that Lou was talking about since Stone retired as a player.

And if you wanna compare careers, Piniella has done much much more as a player and beyond. Yes Stone won a Cy Young, but the rest of his career was mediocre at best.
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I'm just saying.

Piniella's comments portray Stone as just one more beat writer that never had cleats to hang up. Stone's opinions on how the game should be played, right or wrong, aren't theoretical.

[veryzer]

<!--quoteo(post=100894:date=Jun 11 2010, 01:41 PM:name=Coach)-->QUOTE (Coach @ Jun 11 2010, 01:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=100888:date=Jun 11 2010, 02:28 PM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Jun 11 2010, 02:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=100875:date=Jun 11 2010, 12:54 PM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Jun 11 2010, 12:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->WHOA. Reading that doesn't show how exactly how mad Lou was. Watching it now.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Link?
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As much as I want Lou fired (no I don't, just kidding, he should be extended) I found that entertaining and I remembered why I liked him in the first place.

[veryzer]

<!--quoteo(post=100900:date=Jun 11 2010, 01:46 PM:name=jstraw)-->QUOTE (jstraw @ Jun 11 2010, 01:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=100891:date=Jun 11 2010, 01:36 PM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Jun 11 2010, 01:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=100859:date=Jun 11 2010, 11:49 AM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Jun 11 2010, 11:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=100850:date=Jun 11 2010, 11:30 AM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Jun 11 2010, 11:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->"And Steve Stone? He's got enough problems doing what he does with the White Sox. What job has he had in baseball besides talking on television or radio? What has he done?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

*Cough* (Cy Young) *cough*.
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I'm gonna go out on a limb and suggest that Lou was talking about since Stone retired as a player.

And if you wanna compare careers, Piniella has done much much more as a player and beyond. Yes Stone won a Cy Young, but the rest of his career was mediocre at best.
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I'm just saying.

Piniella's comments portray Stone as just one more beat writer that never had cleats to hang up. Stone's opinions on how the game should be played, right or wrong, aren't theoretical.
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I didn't see it that way at all. I think Lou was saying that if Stone is so fucking smart, why aren't teams beating down his door to hire him. It may be a valid question.

[ColoradoCub]

It's about fucking time that Lou shows a little fire

[jstraw]

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Link?
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As much as I want Lou fired (no I don't, just kidding, he should be extended) I found that entertaining and I remembered why I liked him in the first place.
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Why do you want Piniella's contract extended?

[jstraw]

<!--quoteo(post=100902:date=Jun 11 2010, 01:50 PM:name=veryzer)-->QUOTE (veryzer @ Jun 11 2010, 01:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=100900:date=Jun 11 2010, 01:46 PM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Jun 11 2010, 01:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=100891:date=Jun 11 2010, 01:36 PM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Jun 11 2010, 01:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=100859:date=Jun 11 2010, 11:49 AM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Jun 11 2010, 11:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=100850:date=Jun 11 2010, 11:30 AM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Jun 11 2010, 11:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->"And Steve Stone? He's got enough problems doing what he does with the White Sox. What job has he had in baseball besides talking on television or radio? What has he done?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

*Cough* (Cy Young) *cough*.
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I'm gonna go out on a limb and suggest that Lou was talking about since Stone retired as a player.

And if you wanna compare careers, Piniella has done much much more as a player and beyond. Yes Stone won a Cy Young, but the rest of his career was mediocre at best.
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I'm just saying.

Piniella's comments portray Stone as just one more beat writer that never had cleats to hang up. Stone's opinions on how the game should be played, right or wrong, aren't theoretical.
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I didn't see it that way at all. I think Lou was saying that if Stone is so fucking smart, why aren't teams beating down his door to hire him. It may be a valid question.
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Yep, you're right. That's clear from the video. That transcript didn't contain any of what Lou said about Stone not working in baseball since his playing career.

[jstraw]

On the other hand, Stone's right and Piniella's wrong on the subject of being fair to players.

Fuck fairness. Lou needs to put the lineup on the field he thinks has the best chance of winning, every single day...with *some* consideration for getting guys into games to keep them sharp....NOT to be "fair."

[Mikey]

<!--quoteo(post=100910:date=Jun 11 2010, 02:04 PM:name=jstraw)-->QUOTE (jstraw @ Jun 11 2010, 02:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->On the other hand, Stone's right and Piniella's wrong on the subject of being fair to players.

Fuck fairness. Lou needs to put the lineup on the field he thinks has the best chance of winning, every single day...with *some* consideration for getting guys into games to keep them sharp....NOT to be "fair."<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
and who do you want to be the 4th OF behind Colvin?

[rok]

<!--quoteo(post=100971:date=Jun 11 2010, 04:45 PM:name=Mikey)-->QUOTE (Mikey @ Jun 11 2010, 04:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=100910:date=Jun 11 2010, 02:04 PM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Jun 11 2010, 02:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->On the other hand, Stone's right and Piniella's wrong on the subject of being fair to players.

Fuck fairness. Lou needs to put the lineup on the field he thinks has the best chance of winning, every single day...with *some* consideration for getting guys into games to keep them sharp....NOT to be "fair."<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
and who do you want to be the 4th OF behind Colvin?
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Fuk. He's been sliding for a while now.

[funkster]

<!--quoteo(post=100902:date=Jun 11 2010, 01:50 PM:name=veryzer)-->QUOTE (veryzer @ Jun 11 2010, 01:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=100900:date=Jun 11 2010, 01:46 PM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Jun 11 2010, 01:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=100891:date=Jun 11 2010, 01:36 PM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Jun 11 2010, 01:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=100859:date=Jun 11 2010, 11:49 AM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Jun 11 2010, 11:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=100850:date=Jun 11 2010, 11:30 AM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Jun 11 2010, 11:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->"And Steve Stone? He's got enough problems doing what he does with the White Sox. What job has he had in baseball besides talking on television or radio? What has he done?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

*Cough* (Cy Young) *cough*.
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I'm gonna go out on a limb and suggest that Lou was talking about since Stone retired as a player.

And if you wanna compare careers, Piniella has done much much more as a player and beyond. Yes Stone won a Cy Young, but the rest of his career was mediocre at best.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I'm just saying.

Piniella's comments portray Stone as just one more beat writer that never had cleats to hang up. Stone's opinions on how the game should be played, right or wrong, aren't theoretical.
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I didn't see it that way at all. I think Lou was saying that if Stone is so fucking smart, why aren't teams beating down his door to hire him. It may be a valid question.
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I agree. If he's half the genius he thinks he is he'd have offers coming out of his ass. He really irks me, I have absolutely no problem if he was just trying to offer his opinion...but I think it's pretty clear he has a certain amount of venom in his words on the Cubs. Its obvious he's still got a bone to pick. It's interesting how the team he currently works for is about as garbage as the Cubs are, yet you don't get any of the smarmy look at these idiot commentaries on their management and decisions. If you want to give your opinion, fine. But don't insult people's intelligence by pretending to be an unbiased observer. THAT, is why I hate Steve Stone. Ugh the White Sox just HAD to hire him... go away already.

[Butcher]

My hatred for Stone only continues to grow. It's time to drop the fucking petty grudge already and move on.

[funkster]

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This is really what it boils down to. And the fucked up part is there are intelligent people in this town who insist that he doesn't. If you're listening to what he's saying how you can you possibly believe that? It's so blatant its pathetic. All comes down to his massive ego.

[jstraw]

<!--quoteo(post=100971:date=Jun 11 2010, 04:45 PM:name=Mikey)-->QUOTE (Mikey @ Jun 11 2010, 04:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=100910:date=Jun 11 2010, 02:04 PM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Jun 11 2010, 02:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->On the other hand, Stone's right and Piniella's wrong on the subject of being fair to players.

Fuck fairness. Lou needs to put the lineup on the field he thinks has the best chance of winning, every single day...with *some* consideration for getting guys into games to keep them sharp....NOT to be "fair."<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
and who do you want to be the 4th OF behind Colvin?
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What's that got to do with what I said. I'm just saying that Piniella worrying about fairness is ridiculous. I ridicule it.

[BT]

<!--quoteo(post=100981:date=Jun 11 2010, 06:34 PM:name=funkster)-->QUOTE (funkster @ Jun 11 2010, 06:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=100902:date=Jun 11 2010, 01:50 PM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Jun 11 2010, 01:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=100900:date=Jun 11 2010, 01:46 PM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Jun 11 2010, 01:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=100891:date=Jun 11 2010, 01:36 PM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Jun 11 2010, 01:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=100859:date=Jun 11 2010, 11:49 AM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Jun 11 2010, 11:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=100850:date=Jun 11 2010, 11:30 AM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Jun 11 2010, 11:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->"And Steve Stone? He's got enough problems doing what he does with the White Sox. What job has he had in baseball besides talking on television or radio? What has he done?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

*Cough* (Cy Young) *cough*.
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I'm gonna go out on a limb and suggest that Lou was talking about since Stone retired as a player.

And if you wanna compare careers, Piniella has done much much more as a player and beyond. Yes Stone won a Cy Young, but the rest of his career was mediocre at best.
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I'm just saying.

Piniella's comments portray Stone as just one more beat writer that never had cleats to hang up. Stone's opinions on how the game should be played, right or wrong, aren't theoretical.
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I didn't see it that way at all. I think Lou was saying that if Stone is so fucking smart, why aren't teams beating down his door to hire him. It may be a valid question.
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I agree. If he's half the genius he thinks he is he'd have offers coming out of his ass. He really irks me, I have absolutely no problem if he was just trying to offer his opinion...but I think it's pretty clear he has a certain amount of venom in his words on the Cubs. Its obvious he's still got a bone to pick. It's interesting how the team he currently works for is about as garbage as the Cubs are, yet you don't get any of the smarmy look at these idiot commentaries on their management and decisions. If you want to give your opinion, fine. But don't insult people's intelligence by pretending to be an unbiased observer. THAT, is why I hate Steve Stone. Ugh the White Sox just HAD to hire him... go away already.
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Pretty much perfect.

Stone is still smart. He is also comically biased. If he says 10 bad things about the Cubs, I'm tired of trying to figure out which 5 are valid, and which 5 comes from him being pissed at the organization.