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Did Jesse Rogers write it? He misspells everything.

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Baez starting at 2B tonight.

 

Hmm.

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If he gets a call up I'll be excited.  But with Bonifacio coming and if Alcantara stays I just don't see it happening.

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He's got a ways to go to show that he's solved AAA picthers yet. I just think this is the start of engendering positional flexibility.

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I'm just surprised they're putting him at 2B this season.  I don't think a call-up is imminent, but it could be some indication that it is not off the table for this season.

 

Bonifacio will have absolutely zero impact on what is done with Baez.  Alcantara can play the OF.

 

Again, I'm not predicting a call-up (to the contrary, I've predicted otherwise since Baez started the season slumping).  I'm just a little surprised by this.

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Quote:I'm just surprised they're putting him at 2B this season.  I don't think a call-up is imminent, but it could be some indication that it is not off the table for this season.

 

Bonifacio will have absolutely zero impact on what is done with Baez.  Alcantara can play the OF.

 

Again, I'm not predicting a call-up (to the contrary, I've predicted otherwise since Baez started the season slumping).  I'm just a little surprised by this.
 

I would think they would want to get Bono some ABs prior to the deadline, to see if there is any interest.  Alcantra and Bono can't both play CF.
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I'm just surprised they're putting him at 2B this season.  I don't think a call-up is imminent, but it could be some indication that it is not off the table for this season.

 

Bonifacio will have absolutely zero impact on what is done with Baez.  Alcantara can play the OF.

 

Again, I'm not predicting a call-up (to the contrary, I've predicted otherwise since Baez started the season slumping).  I'm just a little surprised by this.
 

I would think they would want to get Bono some ABs prior to the deadline, to see if there is any interest.  Alcantra and Bono can't both play CF.

 

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A. Bonifacio can play 3B.  (So can Alcantara, he played 51 minor league games there, almost 5x more than he played the OF).

 

B. Anybody that can play CF can typically play a corner OF spot.

 

C. If Baez was to be called up this year (and that's still a huge if), I'd be shocked if it was before July 31.

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A. Where would BatFlip play?

B. True, but we are showcasing two corner OFers right now.

C. I'd be shocked if it happened at all for the reason I already mentioned.

 

My point is that a move would have to happen, that's all.
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Quote:A. Where would BatFlip play?

B. True, but we are showcasing two corner OFers right now.

C. I'd be shocked if it happened at all for the reason I already mentioned.

 

My point is that a move would have to happen, that's all.
 

If they were going to care that much about getting Bonifacio playing time to showcase him (I think that's a faulty premise because Bonifacio is not likely to bring a significant return), they could bench Valbuena for a bit.  He has a .455 OPS in July anyways.

 

To the extent they are showcasing corner OFers, that gets back to the point that a call-up is not going to happen in the next 2 weeks before the deadline, so that's a non-factor.  Also, I'm not sure I agree with the premise that they are showcasing Ruggiano.  I think he could be had for the right price, but I think he has a reasonable shot of being back with the team next year.

 

Bottom line is that if they wanted to call up Baez after the deadline (of which I am very skeptical), I don't think they'd hesitate to DFA Bonifacio.
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Quote:I'm just surprised they're putting him at 2B this season.  I don't think a call-up is imminent, but it could be some indication that it is not off the table for this season.

 

Bonifacio will have absolutely zero impact on what is done with Baez.  Alcantara can play the OF.

 

Again, I'm not predicting a call-up (to the contrary, I've predicted otherwise since Baez started the season slumping).  I'm just a little surprised by this.
 

Why the surprise? If Baez shows that he's solved AAA pitching over the next few months, he's a candidate to make the club out of Spring training. While I'm sure the club will likely hold him and Bryant back for the additional year of eligibility, Bryant's performance--coupled with a stated plan to be more aggressive in free agency--might escalate the timetables of B & B.

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I'm just surprised they're putting him at 2B this season.  I don't think a call-up is imminent, but it could be some indication that it is not off the table for this season.

 

Bonifacio will have absolutely zero impact on what is done with Baez.  Alcantara can play the OF.

 

Again, I'm not predicting a call-up (to the contrary, I've predicted otherwise since Baez started the season slumping).  I'm just a little surprised by this.
 

Why the surprise? If Baez shows that he's solved AAA pitching over the next few months, he's a candidate to make the club out of Spring training. While I'm sure the club will likely hold him and Bryant back for the additional year of eligibility, Bryant's performance--coupled with a stated plan to be more aggressive in free agency--might escalate the timetables of B & B.

 

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See, I don't think Baez is a candidate to make the team out of spring training for his first MLB experience.  I can't imagine either he or Bryant making the team when waiting 1 month delays their FA eligibility by a year.

 

Getting a call up and MLB time this season is a different question.  I thought at the start of the season Baez was a candidate to get called up in the 2nd half.  I had just come to believe his performance probably was going to keep that from happening (and I could still well be right on that).  This just suggests that he could still get called up this year.  It's possible might be willing to sacrifice a year towards free agency to get him 2-3 months of MLB playing time (Aug. - Sep. 2014 + April 2015), but I don't think they would just for April.

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I'm just surprised they're putting him at 2B this season.  I don't think a call-up is imminent, but it could be some indication that it is not off the table for this season.

 

Bonifacio will have absolutely zero impact on what is done with Baez.  Alcantara can play the OF.

 

Again, I'm not predicting a call-up (to the contrary, I've predicted otherwise since Baez started the season slumping).  I'm just a little surprised by this.
 

Why the surprise? If Baez shows that he's solved AAA pitching over the next few months, he's a candidate to make the club out of Spring training. While I'm sure the club will likely hold him and Bryant back for the additional year of eligibility, Bryant's performance--coupled with a stated plan to be more aggressive in free agency--might escalate the timetables of B & B.

 

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See, I don't think Baez is a candidate to make the team out of spring training for his first MLB experience.  I can't imagine either he or Bryant making the team when waiting 1 month delays their FA eligibility by a year.

 

Getting a call up and MLB time this season is a different question.  I thought at the start of the season Baez was a candidate to get called up in the 2nd half.  I had just come to believe his performance probably was going to keep that from happening (and I could still well be right on that).  This just suggests that he could still get called up this year.  It's possible might be willing to sacrifice a year towards free agency to get him 2-3 months of MLB playing time (Aug. - Sep. 2014 + April 2015), but I don't think they would just for April.

 

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Probably not, but I can imagine a scenario--far-fetched while it may be--where Baez and Bryant tear it up the rest of the year, the Cubs are very active over the winter, and the FO decides they can contend from day one if both kids are up. Unlikely? Absolutely. But getting Baez the time at 2B right now isn't harming anything, so why not?

 

Of course, there is also the unlikely contingency that they are freeing SS at Iowa for Russell.

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Bryant, Russell and Vogelbach home runs already tonight. Soler with BB in his first two ABs

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I'm just surprised they're putting him at 2B this season.  I don't think a call-up is imminent, but it could be some indication that it is not off the table for this season.

 

Bonifacio will have absolutely zero impact on what is done with Baez.  Alcantara can play the OF.

 

Again, I'm not predicting a call-up (to the contrary, I've predicted otherwise since Baez started the season slumping).  I'm just a little surprised by this.
 

Why the surprise? If Baez shows that he's solved AAA pitching over the next few months, he's a candidate to make the club out of Spring training. While I'm sure the club will likely hold him and Bryant back for the additional year of eligibility, Bryant's performance--coupled with a stated plan to be more aggressive in free agency--might escalate the timetables of B & B.

 

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See, I don't think Baez is a candidate to make the team out of spring training for his first MLB experience.  I can't imagine either he or Bryant making the team when waiting 1 month delays their FA eligibility by a year.

 

Getting a call up and MLB time this season is a different question.  I thought at the start of the season Baez was a candidate to get called up in the 2nd half.  I had just come to believe his performance probably was going to keep that from happening (and I could still well be right on that).  This just suggests that he could still get called up this year.  It's possible might be willing to sacrifice a year towards free agency to get him 2-3 months of MLB playing time (Aug. - Sep. 2014 + April 2015), but I don't think they would just for April.

 

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Probably not, but I can imagine a scenario--far-fetched while it may be--where Baez and Bryant tear it up the rest of the year, the Cubs are very active over the winter, and the FO decides they can contend from day one if both kids are up. Unlikely? Absolutely. But getting Baez the time at 2B right now isn't harming anything, so why not?

 

Of course, there is also the unlikely contingency that they are freeing SS at Iowa for Russell.

 

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Your points are entirely valid.  The only thing that raises my eyebrows is that if the idea was to get Baez some playing time at another position, without an eye towards bringing him up this season (or bringing Russell up to Iowa, though I agree that's probably not going to happen), is why start now?  They could have been getting him a start or 2 per week at 2B all season.

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Bryant is going to end up being a star.

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