06-04-2010, 12:35 PM
<!--quoteo(post=99838:date=Jun 4 2010, 11:27 AM:name=rok)-->QUOTE (rok @ Jun 4 2010, 11:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=99837:date=Jun 4 2010, 10:24 AM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Jun 4 2010, 10:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=99771:date=Jun 3 2010, 02:55 PM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Jun 3 2010, 02:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=99769:date=Jun 3 2010, 02:53 PM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Jun 3 2010, 02:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=99767:date=Jun 3 2010, 02:43 PM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Jun 3 2010, 02:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I have no idea what is going to happen, since times are so tough and politically, it is very unpopular right now to push through tax and fee increases for any reason other than in the event of a budgetary doomsday scenario, but I hope the team remains in AZ. I hate it when traditions are destroyed especially in sports, and it would be absolutely devastating to the local economy if the Cubs were to jump ship after more than 50 years in the state. Mesa needs the source of revenue way more than Naples does, so I am rooting for the status quo.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
When the tradition is bad, I'm all for destroying it, with extreme prejudice. Cubs tradition is bad. Blow it all up.
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I don't disagree, and when it comes to Wrigley itself, I actually wouldn't mind rebuilding the place brick by brick, but I don't think the location of our ST facilities has anything to do with the 102 years of nothingness.
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I don't think it does either, but if you're keeping the Cubs in Arizona for nothing other than tradition, and the tradition is as bad as the Cubs, why bother? I don't care where they have Spring Training.
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But it isn't just about tradition though. The local economy needs the team there and already have an established fanbase that supports them. On the other hand, Naples is an ultra-wealthy mostly retirement community that doesn't need the team. I'd say all else isn't equal aside from the facilities that will be the best in baseball regardless of where the team plays.
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With the crash of the economy, Naples is in real bad shape too. Just check out some of the neighborhoods and country clubs that have gone bankrupt in the last couple or years. But Rok is right, Naples = old rich folk while Mesa is more of a common man place.
When the tradition is bad, I'm all for destroying it, with extreme prejudice. Cubs tradition is bad. Blow it all up.
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I don't disagree, and when it comes to Wrigley itself, I actually wouldn't mind rebuilding the place brick by brick, but I don't think the location of our ST facilities has anything to do with the 102 years of nothingness.
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I don't think it does either, but if you're keeping the Cubs in Arizona for nothing other than tradition, and the tradition is as bad as the Cubs, why bother? I don't care where they have Spring Training.
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But it isn't just about tradition though. The local economy needs the team there and already have an established fanbase that supports them. On the other hand, Naples is an ultra-wealthy mostly retirement community that doesn't need the team. I'd say all else isn't equal aside from the facilities that will be the best in baseball regardless of where the team plays.
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With the crash of the economy, Naples is in real bad shape too. Just check out some of the neighborhoods and country clubs that have gone bankrupt in the last couple or years. But Rok is right, Naples = old rich folk while Mesa is more of a common man place.