05-04-2010, 12:47 AM
<!--quoteo(post=94467:date=May 3 2010, 05:56 PM:name=Giff)-->QUOTE (Giff @ May 3 2010, 05:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=94464:date=May 3 2010, 05:44 PM:name=KBwsb)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KBwsb @ May 3 2010, 05:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=94447:date=May 3 2010, 04:15 PM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ May 3 2010, 04:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->In Henderson's record-setting year (130 in 1982) he was caught stealing 42 times. He was picked off or caught in a run-down 14 times.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'd say that a guy who steals 130 bases is basically running wild, no? Like, in a way that absolutely nobody in history has ever done.
<b>Question</b>: do you guys actually think that guys who get picked off first are NEVER caught napping?
-That they're all extremely heads-up ballplayers who are simply physically incapable of getting back to first base all the time?
-That it's 100% a skill, and some guys just don't have the physical skill?
-That unlike other parts of the game, where there is blatant evidence of a player who's head is in the clouds (throwing the ball in the stands with only 2 outs, etc.) , these type of players <i>never</i> make mental mistakes when on first base?
Is that the line of reasoning?
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Dude, there isn't anybody saying guys never get caught napping, nor is there anyone saying that when someone gets caught napping it isn't a mental mistake. The point is, a lot of the time, when someone gets picked off, it's because they're leaning towards second trying to get a better jump in order to steal second. And that isn't a mental mistake.
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let's put it this way...this whole thing was based off the line "was caught leaning off first". That sounds to me like somebody who was napping...not somebody who was trying to gain an edge to seriously steal a base. that is a mental mistake.
I'd say that a guy who steals 130 bases is basically running wild, no? Like, in a way that absolutely nobody in history has ever done.
<b>Question</b>: do you guys actually think that guys who get picked off first are NEVER caught napping?
-That they're all extremely heads-up ballplayers who are simply physically incapable of getting back to first base all the time?
-That it's 100% a skill, and some guys just don't have the physical skill?
-That unlike other parts of the game, where there is blatant evidence of a player who's head is in the clouds (throwing the ball in the stands with only 2 outs, etc.) , these type of players <i>never</i> make mental mistakes when on first base?
Is that the line of reasoning?
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Dude, there isn't anybody saying guys never get caught napping, nor is there anyone saying that when someone gets caught napping it isn't a mental mistake. The point is, a lot of the time, when someone gets picked off, it's because they're leaning towards second trying to get a better jump in order to steal second. And that isn't a mental mistake.
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let's put it this way...this whole thing was based off the line "was caught leaning off first". That sounds to me like somebody who was napping...not somebody who was trying to gain an edge to seriously steal a base. that is a mental mistake.