01-07-2010, 03:20 PM
<!--quoteo(post=74389:date=Jan 6 2010, 05:30 PM:name=1060Ivy)-->QUOTE (1060Ivy @ Jan 6 2010, 05:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=74357:date=Jan 6 2010, 03:11 PM:name=Prometheus)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Prometheus @ Jan 6 2010, 03:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->It's impossible to determine whether Sisco would have panned out with the Cubs if he was allowed to stick around in the minors and wasn't forced to the big leagues. Still, he was a decent young LH arm that the Cubs didn't protect.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I don't mean to pile on here but rushing Sisco to the majors as an example of Hendry's follies is kinda of lacking based on Sisco history and the Rule 5 draft.
Sisco was and is known for having a million dollar arm and a 10 cent head. BTW, I still like the story about him getting kicked out of the Mexican League for eating tacos during a game.
Sisco was drafted in 2001 in the second round by the Cubs. In Sisco's 4 years with the Cubs he pitched a total of something like 230 innings in lower A and higher A ball. Other than being a giant, lefty the guy didn't have it.
In 2005, he gets picked by KC in a Rule 5 draft, sheds a ton of weight, shows up in shape and pitches well enough to make the roster. He makes 67 appearances, 75 innings, with a 3.11 ERA and WHIP 1.46. 2005 was by far Sisco's best year.
After this season, Sisco goes back to being a piece of crap, goes back to the minors, gets traded, injured and maybe out of baseball.
It appears that you are blaming Hendry for the Royals rushing Sisco into the majors. You understand the Royals had to keep him on the roster in 2005 or they would have lost him because he was a Rule 5 pick up.
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I'm not blaming Hendry for anything there. I'm saying it's impossible to know whether Sisco would have turned out the same had he spent his time in the minors instead of in the MLB when he wasn't really ready for it.
And hindsight is 20/20 with prospects. You think Sisco is an irreparable dimwit with nothing upstairs, but had he turned out the other way, you likely would have blamed his antics on youth.
The important aspect of Rule 5 is that these players obviously had value to other teams. Both Sisco and Veal were drafted early in the Rule 5 draft and were kept for an entire year. The Cubs didn't want to protect them and thus they lost them for nothing. Both could have been involved in a trade if the Cubs didn't think they were going to be successful.
I don't mean to pile on here but rushing Sisco to the majors as an example of Hendry's follies is kinda of lacking based on Sisco history and the Rule 5 draft.
Sisco was and is known for having a million dollar arm and a 10 cent head. BTW, I still like the story about him getting kicked out of the Mexican League for eating tacos during a game.
Sisco was drafted in 2001 in the second round by the Cubs. In Sisco's 4 years with the Cubs he pitched a total of something like 230 innings in lower A and higher A ball. Other than being a giant, lefty the guy didn't have it.
In 2005, he gets picked by KC in a Rule 5 draft, sheds a ton of weight, shows up in shape and pitches well enough to make the roster. He makes 67 appearances, 75 innings, with a 3.11 ERA and WHIP 1.46. 2005 was by far Sisco's best year.
After this season, Sisco goes back to being a piece of crap, goes back to the minors, gets traded, injured and maybe out of baseball.
It appears that you are blaming Hendry for the Royals rushing Sisco into the majors. You understand the Royals had to keep him on the roster in 2005 or they would have lost him because he was a Rule 5 pick up.
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I'm not blaming Hendry for anything there. I'm saying it's impossible to know whether Sisco would have turned out the same had he spent his time in the minors instead of in the MLB when he wasn't really ready for it.
And hindsight is 20/20 with prospects. You think Sisco is an irreparable dimwit with nothing upstairs, but had he turned out the other way, you likely would have blamed his antics on youth.
The important aspect of Rule 5 is that these players obviously had value to other teams. Both Sisco and Veal were drafted early in the Rule 5 draft and were kept for an entire year. The Cubs didn't want to protect them and thus they lost them for nothing. Both could have been involved in a trade if the Cubs didn't think they were going to be successful.