12-30-2009, 01:30 PM
<!--quoteo(post=73372:date=Dec 30 2009, 12:26 PM:name=Ace)-->QUOTE (Ace @ Dec 30 2009, 12:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=73369:date=Dec 30 2009, 12:17 PM:name=Coldneck)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Coldneck @ Dec 30 2009, 12:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=73367:date=Dec 30 2009, 12:03 PM:name=Rappster)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rappster @ Dec 30 2009, 12:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=73366:date=Dec 30 2009, 11:01 AM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Dec 30 2009, 11:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=73364:date=Dec 30 2009, 11:42 AM:name=cherp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cherp @ Dec 30 2009, 11:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=73357:date=Dec 30 2009, 10:00 AM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Dec 30 2009, 10:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=73354:date=Dec 30 2009, 09:52 AM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Dec 30 2009, 09:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Maybe I'm in the minority, but another winning season doesn't mean shit to me without at the very least, a pennant. The time has come. Let's see what a different GM can do. That's my opinion.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
No, I think you speak for the majority of Cubs fans. I've been ready for a change since last offseason actually, since the Miles signing. I'm just not that adamant about it because I feel whoever is the GM will never win anything here ever. There, I said it.
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You really don't think it can happen here?
I do - but I don't think the difference between JH and GMX is the difference. I think winning a WS requires a lot to go right - all at once - from a lot of players. I think the Cubs have the talent to do it - and are overdue for the breaks...not sure when - but I don't know why it couldn't eventually happen with all the talent on this roster.
I still feel like a GM is grossly overrated.
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Large market GMs are mildly overrated. Small and medium market GMs can be the sole difference between a perennial loser and a playoff team.
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Explain yourself...
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Compare Minnesota's Terry Ryan to Kansas City's Dayton Moore. Compare the Marlins' Larry Beinfest to the Nationals' Jim Bowden (who was fired last year).
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Adding Billy Beane, as the shining example, of course.
How does that point possibly require explanation? Have you followed baseball in the last 20 years?
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You see I don't think Billy Beane is a good example any longer. His teams have overachieved IMO, but are less impressive than the Marlins and the Twins.
No, I think you speak for the majority of Cubs fans. I've been ready for a change since last offseason actually, since the Miles signing. I'm just not that adamant about it because I feel whoever is the GM will never win anything here ever. There, I said it.
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You really don't think it can happen here?
I do - but I don't think the difference between JH and GMX is the difference. I think winning a WS requires a lot to go right - all at once - from a lot of players. I think the Cubs have the talent to do it - and are overdue for the breaks...not sure when - but I don't know why it couldn't eventually happen with all the talent on this roster.
I still feel like a GM is grossly overrated.
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Large market GMs are mildly overrated. Small and medium market GMs can be the sole difference between a perennial loser and a playoff team.
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Explain yourself...
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Compare Minnesota's Terry Ryan to Kansas City's Dayton Moore. Compare the Marlins' Larry Beinfest to the Nationals' Jim Bowden (who was fired last year).
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Adding Billy Beane, as the shining example, of course.
How does that point possibly require explanation? Have you followed baseball in the last 20 years?
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You see I don't think Billy Beane is a good example any longer. His teams have overachieved IMO, but are less impressive than the Marlins and the Twins.