12-17-2009, 02:52 PM
<!--quoteo(post=72028:date=Dec 17 2009, 12:34 PM:name=Scarey)-->QUOTE (Scarey @ Dec 17 2009, 12:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=72025:date=Dec 17 2009, 02:17 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Dec 17 2009, 02:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=72024:date=Dec 17 2009, 12:05 PM:name=Scarey)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Scarey @ Dec 17 2009, 12:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=72021:date=Dec 17 2009, 11:47 AM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Dec 17 2009, 11:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <!--quotec-->you are stating that in at least 7 of his years in which he appeared in the All Star game, Ozzie Smith should have earned 400k. He also had a total of 12 years in which his OPS was roughly the same, or worse than Neifi's 2005 season.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Ozzie Smith might be the most overrated player in the history of the game. And yes -- whatever he was getting paid, I'm certain it was way too much.
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That's not what he asked though. He asked if he should have earned 400k a year.
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I thought I answered it by saying "whatever he was getting paid, I'm certain it was way too much." But fine -- I'll be more precise.
Given the era he played in, 400k would have been too much. Maybe near the end of his career, after he had all that service time.
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I just want to know your feelings on the subject Butcher. I'm not trying to be a smartass, but that's a totally different question you answered.
If you don't mind, can I ask one if you think Ozzie Smith playing today is worth what Neifi was paid?
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I guess I misread you. My bad.
I think if Ozzie Smith played today, there's a good chance that he'd be a bench player/utility guy. I don't think he would start on a big market team. As far as his salary, I think he'd probably be worth close what Neifi was paid -- maybe a little more near the end of his career. He could actually get on base a little (in '87, for example, his OBP was close to .400)...every third season or so. Of course, Neifi never did backflips on the field...so there's that.
The fact that "The Wizard" was a first-ballot HOFer and Ryno took three years to get in, still eats at my soul.
Ozzie Smith might be the most overrated player in the history of the game. And yes -- whatever he was getting paid, I'm certain it was way too much.
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That's not what he asked though. He asked if he should have earned 400k a year.
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I thought I answered it by saying "whatever he was getting paid, I'm certain it was way too much." But fine -- I'll be more precise.
Given the era he played in, 400k would have been too much. Maybe near the end of his career, after he had all that service time.
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I just want to know your feelings on the subject Butcher. I'm not trying to be a smartass, but that's a totally different question you answered.
If you don't mind, can I ask one if you think Ozzie Smith playing today is worth what Neifi was paid?
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I guess I misread you. My bad.
I think if Ozzie Smith played today, there's a good chance that he'd be a bench player/utility guy. I don't think he would start on a big market team. As far as his salary, I think he'd probably be worth close what Neifi was paid -- maybe a little more near the end of his career. He could actually get on base a little (in '87, for example, his OBP was close to .400)...every third season or so. Of course, Neifi never did backflips on the field...so there's that.
The fact that "The Wizard" was a first-ballot HOFer and Ryno took three years to get in, still eats at my soul.