11-24-2009, 05:54 PM
<!--quoteo(post=70087:date=Nov 24 2009, 07:04 AM:name=Coldneck)-->QUOTE (Coldneck @ Nov 24 2009, 07:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=70079:date=Nov 24 2009, 06:40 AM:name=Scarey)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Scarey @ Nov 24 2009, 06:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=70076:date=Nov 24 2009, 06:23 AM:name=Coldneck)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Coldneck @ Nov 24 2009, 06:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=70062:date=Nov 24 2009, 04:17 AM:name=BT)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BT @ Nov 24 2009, 04:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=70059:date=Nov 24 2009, 03:12 AM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Nov 24 2009, 03:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=70058:date=Nov 24 2009, 03:07 AM:name=BT)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BT @ Nov 24 2009, 03:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=70053:date=Nov 24 2009, 02:40 AM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Nov 24 2009, 02:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->That's my biggest beef too. Soriano should have gotten 5-6 years max, and Bradley 1-2 years. Hendry seems to love tacking on an extra 2-3 years (in the case of guys like Miles and Blanco 1 year) to otherwise reasonable contracts. I don't even take issue with the amount we pay our players per annum, but it's the contract lengths that are head scratchers.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
If I remember correctly, either the angels or Astros were offering 7 years as well. That is why Hendry bumped it up by a year. But again, none of us KNOWS what happened.
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That is true. I just remember a lot of speculation revolved around most teams offering 5-6 years. We'll never know for sure though.
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The only reason Im fairly confident those offers were there was the fact that Hendry actually upped his offer from 7 years to 8 years. Even if you despise Hendry, you'd have to admit he would at least need SOME reason to do that.
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You make a reasonable point that none of us are really "in the know" when it comes to the behind the scenes dealings of a GM. However, I think the fact that there are many examples of JH offering too much for too long that trumps the argument. Fact is, JH frequently gives to much and too many and it has hurt the team's financial flexibility.
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What I don't understand about all of this is why Coldneck isn't the Cubs GM. He obviously operates at a higher mental capacity compared to Hendry.
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Really! You don't think I am qualified to critique the GMs job performance? That's what fans do. You don't have to agree with it. Just don't be all douchey in the process.
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Ok, I don't think you got my point and it looks like that would be my fault.
I'm not in any way saying you aren't qualified to critique a GMs job performance. I do it, I'm pissed as hell about the Grabow signing. However, you keep suggesting that Hendry gives too much money to free agents as if there's no reason for it.
Unfortunately, that's just how free agency works. Look at Carlos Silva, Eric Byrnes, Barry Zito, Gil Meche, Derek Lowe, etc. If you want to land your guy, you gotta pay out the nose. And it's this reason that we MUST build our farm system consistently (see, I'm trying to make peace ending on a subject we agree on).
If I remember correctly, either the angels or Astros were offering 7 years as well. That is why Hendry bumped it up by a year. But again, none of us KNOWS what happened.
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That is true. I just remember a lot of speculation revolved around most teams offering 5-6 years. We'll never know for sure though.
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The only reason Im fairly confident those offers were there was the fact that Hendry actually upped his offer from 7 years to 8 years. Even if you despise Hendry, you'd have to admit he would at least need SOME reason to do that.
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You make a reasonable point that none of us are really "in the know" when it comes to the behind the scenes dealings of a GM. However, I think the fact that there are many examples of JH offering too much for too long that trumps the argument. Fact is, JH frequently gives to much and too many and it has hurt the team's financial flexibility.
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What I don't understand about all of this is why Coldneck isn't the Cubs GM. He obviously operates at a higher mental capacity compared to Hendry.
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Really! You don't think I am qualified to critique the GMs job performance? That's what fans do. You don't have to agree with it. Just don't be all douchey in the process.
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Ok, I don't think you got my point and it looks like that would be my fault.
I'm not in any way saying you aren't qualified to critique a GMs job performance. I do it, I'm pissed as hell about the Grabow signing. However, you keep suggesting that Hendry gives too much money to free agents as if there's no reason for it.
Unfortunately, that's just how free agency works. Look at Carlos Silva, Eric Byrnes, Barry Zito, Gil Meche, Derek Lowe, etc. If you want to land your guy, you gotta pay out the nose. And it's this reason that we MUST build our farm system consistently (see, I'm trying to make peace ending on a subject we agree on).