11-24-2009, 05:34 PM
<!--quoteo(post=70123:date=Nov 24 2009, 03:16 PM:name=BT)-->QUOTE (BT @ Nov 24 2009, 03:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <!--quotec-->One of those things, in my opinion, is that Hendry tends to set his sights on the player he wants, lowers his head, and charges, full-speed ahead and loses sight of the bigger picture. I'm sure he he has a lot of things on the skillet at once, and wants to seal the deal and move forward. He can get overly aggressive sometimes. Is that stupid? Maybe.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I"ll fully admit that this is possible. I think it's possible after losing out on Furcal, he might be more aggressive. However it would not account for mistakes as big as signing a guy to a 30 million dollar deal when he could have had him for 12. Which is what you claimed, and I objected to. If you want to say that Hendry might have had Bradley for 3/25, but instead went 3/30, I won't argue. But that completely changes the substance of your complaint. One argument is that he overpaid. The other argument is that he is fucking insane or fucking stupid, and nearly tripled the nearest offer.
Furthermore, NONE of what you have written substantially changes my initial argument. How can you possibly complain about Hendry's offers in comparison to the rest of the market, when you can't possibly know what the rest of the market was offering?
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->Surely you don't think Hendry *never* makes a mistake?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm not going to dignify that with a response. Last time I did, apparently my snark pissed you off.
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The one offer we know of was from the Rays -- for much less money and one less season. The other evidence I'm using to base my stance on is somewhat speculative -- I'll freely admit that.
I think I've said several times within this thread that the Bradley deal doesn't even piss me off that much and I was more or less OK with it when it went down. I put Bradley's deal into the Grabow argument as one example of Hendry offering too much money with contracts that are too long, and somehow this discussion has become more about Bradley than Grabow.
You want me to concede on Bradley? Fine. It was a wonderful deal. You win.
He still fucked up with Grabow, in a very similar way that he fucked up with other mid-to low-level talent in the past.
I"ll fully admit that this is possible. I think it's possible after losing out on Furcal, he might be more aggressive. However it would not account for mistakes as big as signing a guy to a 30 million dollar deal when he could have had him for 12. Which is what you claimed, and I objected to. If you want to say that Hendry might have had Bradley for 3/25, but instead went 3/30, I won't argue. But that completely changes the substance of your complaint. One argument is that he overpaid. The other argument is that he is fucking insane or fucking stupid, and nearly tripled the nearest offer.
Furthermore, NONE of what you have written substantially changes my initial argument. How can you possibly complain about Hendry's offers in comparison to the rest of the market, when you can't possibly know what the rest of the market was offering?
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->Surely you don't think Hendry *never* makes a mistake?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm not going to dignify that with a response. Last time I did, apparently my snark pissed you off.
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The one offer we know of was from the Rays -- for much less money and one less season. The other evidence I'm using to base my stance on is somewhat speculative -- I'll freely admit that.
I think I've said several times within this thread that the Bradley deal doesn't even piss me off that much and I was more or less OK with it when it went down. I put Bradley's deal into the Grabow argument as one example of Hendry offering too much money with contracts that are too long, and somehow this discussion has become more about Bradley than Grabow.
You want me to concede on Bradley? Fine. It was a wonderful deal. You win.
He still fucked up with Grabow, in a very similar way that he fucked up with other mid-to low-level talent in the past.