09-30-2009, 07:25 PM
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Carlos Zambrano's 162 game averages:
IP: 212
ERA: 3.50
SO: 181
ERA+: 127
Roy Halladay's 162 game averages:
IP: 232
ERA: 3.45
SO: 169
ERA+: 133
The only thing that Halladay is decisively better than Zambrano in is innings pitched, and there's nobody besides Halladay in this era that can throw 230 innings every single year.
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BTW
Halladay's 162 game averages:
BB/9 - 2.0
BB - 52
Zambrano's 162 game averages:
BB/9 - 4
BB - 95
I might be the only one but I find those stats important.
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Zambrano's career hits/9: 7.6
Halladay's career hits/9: 8.8
So, Halladay allows one less base runner than Zambrano does per 9 innings. It's not insignificant, but I still think that puts Zambrano in the same category as Halladay. Halladay is easily the better pitcher, but he doesn't blow Zambrano away.
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Halladay also plays in the AL...the AL east. And Zambrano plays in the notably weak NL Central. It's not close.
Carlos Zambrano's 162 game averages:
IP: 212
ERA: 3.50
SO: 181
ERA+: 127
Roy Halladay's 162 game averages:
IP: 232
ERA: 3.45
SO: 169
ERA+: 133
The only thing that Halladay is decisively better than Zambrano in is innings pitched, and there's nobody besides Halladay in this era that can throw 230 innings every single year.
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BTW
Halladay's 162 game averages:
BB/9 - 2.0
BB - 52
Zambrano's 162 game averages:
BB/9 - 4
BB - 95
I might be the only one but I find those stats important.
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Zambrano's career hits/9: 7.6
Halladay's career hits/9: 8.8
So, Halladay allows one less base runner than Zambrano does per 9 innings. It's not insignificant, but I still think that puts Zambrano in the same category as Halladay. Halladay is easily the better pitcher, but he doesn't blow Zambrano away.
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Halladay also plays in the AL...the AL east. And Zambrano plays in the notably weak NL Central. It's not close.