08-07-2009, 11:50 AM
<!--quoteo(post=56238:date=Aug 7 2009, 08:37 AM:name=BT)-->QUOTE (BT @ Aug 7 2009, 08:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=56196:date=Aug 6 2009, 10:20 PM:name=cubbieblue)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cubbieblue @ Aug 6 2009, 10:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Soriano isn't the only player performing. This is the last paragraph of my friend's latest blog entry.
"Heilman and Gregg are being paid nearly $6 million and they are producing worse than someone the Cubs could find at AAA. Not to mention they are paying Gaudin, Vizcaino, and Cotts $5.4 million dollars to not pitch At least they aren’t hurting the team though. Combine that with the $23 million from Soriano and Bradley, the $2.2 miles is being paid to suck, and money from a few other players the Cubs are paying to not play for them, the Cubs are paying almost $39.5 million to players who have lost the Cubs 2 more games than a team of minimum wage replacements players theoretically would. That is more than the Marlins, Pirates, and Padres complete team salaries. And we wonder why this team can’t win with a $140 million dollar payroll."
You can see more of the data here:
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I'm not trying to pile on here, but if we are going to be using WAR(P), doesn't the fact that Gregg has a 1.5 WARP1 completely destroy the idea that Gregg is producing "worse than someone could find at AAA"?
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And this is why I hate FIP. Gregg is absolutely killed by his high home run rate in FIP, which is the basis of the stats provided. I much prefer tRA. Later I should go through and redo the pitching numbers by using tRA vs lgtRA to calculate the RAA and then WAA and assigning the same dollar number per wins and see what I come up with there.
"Heilman and Gregg are being paid nearly $6 million and they are producing worse than someone the Cubs could find at AAA. Not to mention they are paying Gaudin, Vizcaino, and Cotts $5.4 million dollars to not pitch At least they aren’t hurting the team though. Combine that with the $23 million from Soriano and Bradley, the $2.2 miles is being paid to suck, and money from a few other players the Cubs are paying to not play for them, the Cubs are paying almost $39.5 million to players who have lost the Cubs 2 more games than a team of minimum wage replacements players theoretically would. That is more than the Marlins, Pirates, and Padres complete team salaries. And we wonder why this team can’t win with a $140 million dollar payroll."
You can see more of the data here:
http://onebadcentury.com/?p=57<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm not trying to pile on here, but if we are going to be using WAR(P), doesn't the fact that Gregg has a 1.5 WARP1 completely destroy the idea that Gregg is producing "worse than someone could find at AAA"?
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And this is why I hate FIP. Gregg is absolutely killed by his high home run rate in FIP, which is the basis of the stats provided. I much prefer tRA. Later I should go through and redo the pitching numbers by using tRA vs lgtRA to calculate the RAA and then WAA and assigning the same dollar number per wins and see what I come up with there.