07-30-2009, 02:21 PM
<!--quoteo(post=53731:date=Jul 30 2009, 11:12 AM:name=Baron)-->QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 30 2009, 11:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=53729:date=Jul 30 2009, 01:08 PM:name=MrSheps)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MrSheps @ Jul 30 2009, 01:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=53726:date=Jul 30 2009, 11:01 AM:name=Baron)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 30 2009, 11:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=53720:date=Jul 30 2009, 12:57 PM:name=MrSheps)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MrSheps @ Jul 30 2009, 12:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=53540:date=Jul 30 2009, 04:42 AM:name=sleepyhead)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (sleepyhead @ Jul 30 2009, 04:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->The Giants gave up their number 1 prospect for Sanchez. How would you feel if the Cubs gave up Vitters for Sanchez? I know that Sanchez would've been nice, but my guess is this place would be erupting like a volcano.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yeah, I hear you. But he was there 4th best prospect according to the articles, and not their highest pitching prospect, that's a lefty named Madison Bumgarner who is their #1 overall. And this guy traded was considered to be a 4 v. a 5 star by Baseball Prospectus. Not to take away from your point, I don't put a lot into those rankings and lists and prospect minded people and publications will say it was a bad deal for sure. But I'm not sure it's the same as us giving up Vitters. I think it might be more like us giving up Jose Ceda (again), who was a 4 star guy ranked 4th on our list going into the season.
Also, a couple of years ago Felix Pie was a top if not the top prospect for us. I would now be feeling great if we gave him up for Sanchez.
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He was ranked basically the same in the BA top 100 as Vitters. Our system isn't near as good as theirs so it would be akin to dealing Vitters for him. No thanks.
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Well if that's the case then I follow, but if Vitters is a 5 star and he's a 4, there still has to be a difference. Was he a top end 4 and Vitters a 5?
Sanchez isn't a rental either, they'll have him through next year. I don't really know enough about the pitcher they gave up to say if I would be happy or sad if we did the trade. If you say he's Vitters, then no, it wouldn't make sense. If he's Ceda it might. But I also know from recent experience we've been selling low with a lot of our young talent.
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I was wrong, Vitters is 51, Alderson 45. Linkage
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In that case then, no thanks.
Yeah, I hear you. But he was there 4th best prospect according to the articles, and not their highest pitching prospect, that's a lefty named Madison Bumgarner who is their #1 overall. And this guy traded was considered to be a 4 v. a 5 star by Baseball Prospectus. Not to take away from your point, I don't put a lot into those rankings and lists and prospect minded people and publications will say it was a bad deal for sure. But I'm not sure it's the same as us giving up Vitters. I think it might be more like us giving up Jose Ceda (again), who was a 4 star guy ranked 4th on our list going into the season.
Also, a couple of years ago Felix Pie was a top if not the top prospect for us. I would now be feeling great if we gave him up for Sanchez.
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He was ranked basically the same in the BA top 100 as Vitters. Our system isn't near as good as theirs so it would be akin to dealing Vitters for him. No thanks.
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Well if that's the case then I follow, but if Vitters is a 5 star and he's a 4, there still has to be a difference. Was he a top end 4 and Vitters a 5?
Sanchez isn't a rental either, they'll have him through next year. I don't really know enough about the pitcher they gave up to say if I would be happy or sad if we did the trade. If you say he's Vitters, then no, it wouldn't make sense. If he's Ceda it might. But I also know from recent experience we've been selling low with a lot of our young talent.
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I was wrong, Vitters is 51, Alderson 45. Linkage
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In that case then, no thanks.