07-14-2009, 01:36 PM
<!--quoteo(post=49811:date=Jul 14 2009, 12:32 PM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ Jul 14 2009, 12:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Is the argument that Manny is so much better than Sosa that he'll be able to leapfrog the steroid taint and that Sammy won't?
I think if steroids are going to keep people out of the Hall (and it appears that it will -- look at McGwire), then it needs to keep everyone out. Including Manny. Manny is a first-ballot HOFer, numbers-wise. But so is Sosa. And...if steroids are keeping people out of the Hall, then nobody who played during that time should be Hall-eligible. Why? Because everyone was juicing. I'm not saying that makes it right, but nobody can tell me that there's a player on that list who didn't do at least one or two cycles of steroids. That includes Frank Thomas, Chipper Jones, Junior, and probably even the Crime Dog.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
So you're proposing that nobody from the steroid era gets in?
I think if steroids are going to keep people out of the Hall (and it appears that it will -- look at McGwire), then it needs to keep everyone out. Including Manny. Manny is a first-ballot HOFer, numbers-wise. But so is Sosa. And...if steroids are keeping people out of the Hall, then nobody who played during that time should be Hall-eligible. Why? Because everyone was juicing. I'm not saying that makes it right, but nobody can tell me that there's a player on that list who didn't do at least one or two cycles of steroids. That includes Frank Thomas, Chipper Jones, Junior, and probably even the Crime Dog.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
So you're proposing that nobody from the steroid era gets in?
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