07-13-2009, 03:44 PM
<!--quoteo(post=49632:date=Jul 13 2009, 02:29 PM:name=Destined)-->QUOTE (Destined @ Jul 13 2009, 02:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=49627:date=Jul 13 2009, 12:25 PM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Jul 13 2009, 12:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=49624:date=Jul 13 2009, 02:17 PM:name=Destined)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Destined @ Jul 13 2009, 02:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=49619:date=Jul 13 2009, 12:13 PM:name=Andy)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Andy @ Jul 13 2009, 12:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Jim Thome YES
Frank Thomas YES
Fred McGriff NO
Manny Ramirez YES
Jeff Bagwell NO
Sammy Sosa NO
Gary Sheffield NO
Rafael Palmeiro NO
Ken Griffey Jr. YES
Chipper Jones YES<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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why "yes" to ramirez but "no" to sosa?
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Ramirez was still good before steroids, and he has less of a bad repuation than Sammy.
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how the hell do you know when ramirez started taking steroids? look, i can see where you wouldn't want sammy in. i don't agree with it, but i get it. but if you're going to keep him out, then you have to keep ramirez out. it can't be one or the other. that's just insane. MANNY WAS CAUGHT ! there's no way one can be let in and not the other.
the fact of the matter is, whether we like it or not, every player on that list deserves to get in except for mcgriff. all of them. they were the best of their eras.
Frank Thomas YES
Fred McGriff NO
Manny Ramirez YES
Jeff Bagwell NO
Sammy Sosa NO
Gary Sheffield NO
Rafael Palmeiro NO
Ken Griffey Jr. YES
Chipper Jones YES<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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why "yes" to ramirez but "no" to sosa?
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Ramirez was still good before steroids, and he has less of a bad repuation than Sammy.
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how the hell do you know when ramirez started taking steroids? look, i can see where you wouldn't want sammy in. i don't agree with it, but i get it. but if you're going to keep him out, then you have to keep ramirez out. it can't be one or the other. that's just insane. MANNY WAS CAUGHT ! there's no way one can be let in and not the other.
the fact of the matter is, whether we like it or not, every player on that list deserves to get in except for mcgriff. all of them. they were the best of their eras.
Wang.