06-29-2009, 03:50 PM
<!--quoteo(post=47045:date=Jun 29 2009, 01:11 PM:name=BackyardLegend)-->QUOTE (BackyardLegend @ Jun 29 2009, 01:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=47032:date=Jun 29 2009, 12:36 PM:name=BT)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BT @ Jun 29 2009, 12:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Yes. And who can forget that magical 1991 season when firing Don Zimmer and replacing him with spunky Jim Essian, and his 59-63 record led to our first championship since....
1986 when Gene Micheal took over for a lethargic Cubs squad, energizing the team to a thrilling 46-56 clip. Man, it seemed like we won nearly every other game that year once Gene took over.
Needless to say, while you can point to examples of changing managers that led to triumph, there are many more that ended up less successful. I might also add, your Brewers example is actually kind of a bad one. The Brewers fired Yost, then proceeded to go a rather pedestrian 7-5 to win the wild card. They wouldn't have even done that, had the Mets, under Jerry Manuel, who replaced Willie Randolph mid season, not gone 3-6 during the last week and a half of the season. So one manager change "worked" (if you can call a 7-5 record working), at the expense of another that didn't.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes but what were the expectations of the 86 and 91 Cubs? Because the 85 and 90 Cubs both had shitty 4th place finishes.
And yes the Mets did help the Brewers cause last year, but they still won 5 out of their last 6.
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Dude, you don't want to go that route. Where were the Brewers expected to finish last year? I think most people had them winning the WC. Where were the Mets supposed to finish last year? They were supposed to win their division. The 2004 Red Sox? Even the 2003 Marlins were supposed to be good, after signing IRod, and trading for Pierre.
1986 when Gene Micheal took over for a lethargic Cubs squad, energizing the team to a thrilling 46-56 clip. Man, it seemed like we won nearly every other game that year once Gene took over.
Needless to say, while you can point to examples of changing managers that led to triumph, there are many more that ended up less successful. I might also add, your Brewers example is actually kind of a bad one. The Brewers fired Yost, then proceeded to go a rather pedestrian 7-5 to win the wild card. They wouldn't have even done that, had the Mets, under Jerry Manuel, who replaced Willie Randolph mid season, not gone 3-6 during the last week and a half of the season. So one manager change "worked" (if you can call a 7-5 record working), at the expense of another that didn't.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes but what were the expectations of the 86 and 91 Cubs? Because the 85 and 90 Cubs both had shitty 4th place finishes.
And yes the Mets did help the Brewers cause last year, but they still won 5 out of their last 6.
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Dude, you don't want to go that route. Where were the Brewers expected to finish last year? I think most people had them winning the WC. Where were the Mets supposed to finish last year? They were supposed to win their division. The 2004 Red Sox? Even the 2003 Marlins were supposed to be good, after signing IRod, and trading for Pierre.
I wish that I believed in Fate. I wish I didn't sleep so late. I used to be carried in the arms of cheerleaders.