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Piniella has to be canned - ruby23 - 06-26-2009
It has to happen. A shakeup has to happen and personel-wise, the Cubs are handcuffed. There's not much room or ways to change the roster. Lou has to go. Yesterday.
Piniella has to be canned - wcplummer - 06-26-2009
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Yeah, fire the manager because of veterans playing like ass and a load of injuries. How dare he manage them to a .500 record...piece of shit.
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Piniella has to be canned - kbwsb - 06-26-2009
I think it <i>would </i>shake the team up.
But the chances of it happening are a billion-to-one.
Piniella has to be canned - Butcher - 06-26-2009
It will never happen. If Hendry rode out Dusty's contract through that shittastic 2006 season, there's no way he cans Piniella.
Piniella has to be canned - Brock - 06-26-2009
I think Hendry should fire himself.
Piniella has to be canned - ruby23 - 06-26-2009
I'm not saying it's gonna happen, I'm saying it should happen. He never should have been hired in the first place. He is Dusty, I've said it since his name first surfaced as a coaching candidate.
Piniella has to be canned - Butcher - 06-26-2009
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I would support shitcanning Piniella without hesitation. Sometimes you need a sacrificial lamb.
Piniella has to be canned - ruby23 - 06-26-2009
<!--quoteo(post=46411:date=Jun 26 2009, 03:43 PM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ Jun 26 2009, 03:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=46410:date=Jun 26 2009, 03:42 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Jun 26 2009, 03:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I'm not saying it's gonna happen, I'm saying it should happen. He never should have been hired in the first place. He is Dusty, I've said it since his name first surfaced as a coaching candidate.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I would support shitcanning Piniella without hesitation. Sometimes you need a sacrificial lamb.
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Money-wise, there's not a roster move that can even happen to make this team any better. Can Piniella, bring up Sandberg as the bench coach and make Trammell the interim manager.
Piniella has to be canned - rok - 06-26-2009
<!--quoteo(post=46415:date=Jun 26 2009, 03:45 PM:name=ruby23)-->QUOTE (ruby23 @ Jun 26 2009, 03:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=46411:date=Jun 26 2009, 03:43 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Jun 26 2009, 03:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=46410:date=Jun 26 2009, 03:42 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Jun 26 2009, 03:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I'm not saying it's gonna happen, I'm saying it should happen. He never should have been hired in the first place. He is Dusty, I've said it since his name first surfaced as a coaching candidate.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I would support shitcanning Piniella without hesitation. Sometimes you need a sacrificial lamb.
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Money-wise, there's not a roster move that can even happen to make this team any better. Can Piniella, bring up Sandberg as the bench coach and make Trammell the interim manager.
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Sounds good to me, but we're stuck with him methinks.
Piniella has to be canned - kbwsb - 06-26-2009
<!--quoteo(post=46408:date=Jun 26 2009, 03:39 PM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ Jun 26 2009, 03:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->It will never happen. If Hendry rode out Dusty's contract through that shittastic 2006 season, there's no way he cans Piniella.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
That was my reasoning. There's also the fact that Hendry detests admitting his mistakes.
I will say one thing: when you ax a mgr, you have to bring in a replacement. Trammell hasn't exactly shown that he's a wonder-worker, and i think a lot of our Ryno-love is tied to the fact that he was a great <i>player</i>.
Considering our options, Lou isn't bad. (although he sure has had a bad season, so far, as far as decisions go).
Piniella has to be canned - Ronsantorocks - 06-26-2009
<!--quoteo(post=46405:date=Jun 26 2009, 03:37 PM:name=wcplummer)-->QUOTE (wcplummer @ Jun 26 2009, 03:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=46403:date=Jun 26 2009, 03:31 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Jun 26 2009, 03:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->It has to happen. A shakeup has to happen and personel-wise, the Cubs are handcuffed. There's not much room or ways to change the roster. Lou has to go. Yesterday.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yeah, fire the manager because of veterans playing like ass and a load of injuries. How dare he manage them to a .500 record...piece of shit.
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Yea What the FUCK.. lets all get together and hunt that fucker down [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/furious.gif[/img]
Piniella has to be canned - Croz - 06-26-2009
I disagree. Firing Lou is not the answer. I'm not sure how firing a manager is going to make any guy on this team better at the plate with guys in scoring position.
Piniella has to be canned - cigar - 06-26-2009
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->Lou blew.
Finally.
After absorbing criticism for not showing fire, Cubs manager Lou Piniella fired on problematic outfielder Milton Bradley.
In fact, he flat fired Bradley for the last 3½ innings of Friday’s crosstown showdown against the White Sox at The Cell.
“I told him to take his uniform off and go home," Piniella said of his own little showdown in the sixth inning.
The confrontation was preceded by Bradley’s flying out to left, swinging at a 2-and-0 pitch after Sox starter Jose Contreras had to be tended to for back spasms. Bradley came back to the dugout, threw his helmet, went after the Gatorade cooler, sent water flying, and then headed down the tunnel with an angry manager right behind.
“[I] followed him up into the clubhouse and we exchanged some words," Piniella said.
“I’m tired of watching those things."
He’s tired of his players showing emotion? Or tired of needing a Kevlar uniform every time one of his players fails, and they have failed a lot this season, you’d better believe.
One man’s emotions are another man’s brattiness, I guess.
With Bradley, though, it continues a blasting-cap history that has seen him move through seven teams in his major-league career, four in the last three seasons. He has gone at it with everyone from a general manager to a manager to a teammate to a reporter to an announcer.
And now with a manager again.
When asked after the game whether Bradley has to change his ways or if the outfielder was apologetic, Piniella said he’d talk about it Saturday. He also said he would put Bradley back in the lineup Saturday.
But Lou blew on Friday, finally, and an inning after the Blowout in the Dugout, Geovany Soto bombed a tie-breaking, three-run homer that proved to be the difference. Coincidence?
Maybe the manager’s explosion was as contrived as his ejection that day in June, 2007, after Carlos Zambrano went upside Michael Barrett, maybe not, but the outcome Friday was as productive as the turnaround that followed two years ago.
Truth is, the story Friday should’ve been Soto belting a tie-breaking, three-run homer a day after admitting to testing positive for pot at the World Baseball Classic. Confession is good for the soul, and apparently the run production, as well.
Or the story could’ve been about Randy Wells throwing seven innings of five-hit, two-run ball. Or Sean Marshall’s throwing one pitch to induce a rally-ending double play, or even Jake Fox’s providing a spark by going deep again.
Heck, the day could’ve been about the Cubs finally winning a game on this confounding, frustrating, almost choking road trip and doing it in the crosstown series.
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Piniella has to be canned - ruby23 - 06-26-2009
<!--quoteo(post=46531:date=Jun 26 2009, 05:50 PM:name=Ronsantorocks)-->QUOTE (Ronsantorocks @ Jun 26 2009, 05:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=46405:date=Jun 26 2009, 03:37 PM:name=wcplummer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (wcplummer @ Jun 26 2009, 03:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=46403:date=Jun 26 2009, 03:31 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Jun 26 2009, 03:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->It has to happen. A shakeup has to happen and personel-wise, the Cubs are handcuffed. There's not much room or ways to change the roster. Lou has to go. Yesterday.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yeah, fire the manager because of veterans playing like ass and a load of injuries. How dare he manage them to a .500 record...piece of shit.
[img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif[/img]
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Yea What the FUCK.. lets all get together and hunt that fucker down [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/furious.gif[/img]
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Don't you have a paper route you should be getting back to?
Piniella has to be canned - ruby23 - 06-26-2009
<!--quoteo(post=46540:date=Jun 26 2009, 06:48 PM:name=Croz)-->QUOTE (Croz @ Jun 26 2009, 06:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I disagree. Firing Lou is not the answer. I'm not sure how firing a manager is going to make any guy on this team better at the plate with guys in scoring position.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You disagree? Well, fuck off. I'm sure you're a great guy and all, but you don't get to disagree. Sorry, can't happen. Not today.