06-29-2009, 01:36 PM
<!--quoteo(post=47018:date=Jun 29 2009, 11:36 AM:name=BackyardLegend)-->QUOTE (BackyardLegend @ Jun 29 2009, 11:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Yea but firing a manager sometimes has that effect on a team that can't be explained.
The 2003 Red Sox lose that tight ALCS to the Yankees. What did they do? They fired Grady Little. What happened in 2004? They won it all.
The 2003 Florida Marlins fired Jeff Torborg and installed Jeff McKeon. We all know what happened after that.
Last year the Brewers had no shame in firing their manager, when they started to falter a bit at the end of the season. They ended up winning the Wild Card.
I'm sure there are other examples...<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes. And who can forget that magical 1991 season when firing Don Zimmer and replacing him with spunky Jim Essian, and his 59-63 record led to our first championship since....
1986 when Gene Micheal took over for a lethargic Cubs squad, energizing the team to a thrilling 46-56 clip. Man, it seemed like we won nearly every other game that year once Gene took over.
Needless to say, while you can point to examples of changing managers that led to triumph, there are many more that ended up less successful. I might also add, your Brewers example is actually kind of a bad one. The Brewers fired Yost, then proceeded to go a rather pedestrian 7-5 to win the wild card. They wouldn't have even done that, had the Mets, under Jerry Manuel, who replaced Willie Randolph mid season, not gone 3-6 during the last week and a half of the season. So one manager change "worked" (if you can call a 7-5 record working), at the expense of another that didn't.
The 2003 Red Sox lose that tight ALCS to the Yankees. What did they do? They fired Grady Little. What happened in 2004? They won it all.
The 2003 Florida Marlins fired Jeff Torborg and installed Jeff McKeon. We all know what happened after that.
Last year the Brewers had no shame in firing their manager, when they started to falter a bit at the end of the season. They ended up winning the Wild Card.
I'm sure there are other examples...<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes. And who can forget that magical 1991 season when firing Don Zimmer and replacing him with spunky Jim Essian, and his 59-63 record led to our first championship since....
1986 when Gene Micheal took over for a lethargic Cubs squad, energizing the team to a thrilling 46-56 clip. Man, it seemed like we won nearly every other game that year once Gene took over.
Needless to say, while you can point to examples of changing managers that led to triumph, there are many more that ended up less successful. I might also add, your Brewers example is actually kind of a bad one. The Brewers fired Yost, then proceeded to go a rather pedestrian 7-5 to win the wild card. They wouldn't have even done that, had the Mets, under Jerry Manuel, who replaced Willie Randolph mid season, not gone 3-6 during the last week and a half of the season. So one manager change "worked" (if you can call a 7-5 record working), at the expense of another that didn't.
I wish that I believed in Fate. I wish I didn't sleep so late. I used to be carried in the arms of cheerleaders.