06-23-2009, 11:24 PM
<!--quoteo(post=45863:date=Jun 23 2009, 10:21 PM:name=Runnys)-->QUOTE (Runnys @ Jun 23 2009, 10:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=45858:date=Jun 23 2009, 09:32 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Jun 23 2009, 09:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=45856:date=Jun 23 2009, 09:23 PM:name=Lance)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lance @ Jun 23 2009, 09:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Playoffs? With Gregg as a closer? Pshaw.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Ok for fuck's sake, if the Cubs don't make the playoffs, it won't be because of Kevin Gregg. Gimme a fucking break.
There's about 2 lockdown closers out there and about 20 mediocre ones (the category Gregg falls into), there's gonna be about 6-7 teams in the playoffs with mediocre closers.
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I agree with the fact that if the Cubs miss the playoffs it will not be because of Gregg. However Ruby, your statement about the closers and playoff teams is ridiculous. As it stands right now the closers for the playoff teams would be:
Jonathan Papelbon
Mariano Rivera
Fernando Rodney
Frank Francisco/CJ Wilson
Brad Lidge
Ryan Franklin
Jonathan Broxton
The current WC teams in the NL would have Hoffman or Brian Wilson
I would take ANY ONE of those closers over Kevin Gregg. When healthy, Papelbon, Rivera, Francisco, and Broxton are as lock down as it gets. Lidge has had a tough time, but we cannot forget he did not blow a save at all last year. IMO, Gregg is worse that any one of those closers except maybe Rodney and Franklin.
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Add Jenks, Cordero and Valverde to the list of closers on 2nd tier/mediocre teams that I'd take over Gregg as well.
Ok for fuck's sake, if the Cubs don't make the playoffs, it won't be because of Kevin Gregg. Gimme a fucking break.
There's about 2 lockdown closers out there and about 20 mediocre ones (the category Gregg falls into), there's gonna be about 6-7 teams in the playoffs with mediocre closers.
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I agree with the fact that if the Cubs miss the playoffs it will not be because of Gregg. However Ruby, your statement about the closers and playoff teams is ridiculous. As it stands right now the closers for the playoff teams would be:
Jonathan Papelbon
Mariano Rivera
Fernando Rodney
Frank Francisco/CJ Wilson
Brad Lidge
Ryan Franklin
Jonathan Broxton
The current WC teams in the NL would have Hoffman or Brian Wilson
I would take ANY ONE of those closers over Kevin Gregg. When healthy, Papelbon, Rivera, Francisco, and Broxton are as lock down as it gets. Lidge has had a tough time, but we cannot forget he did not blow a save at all last year. IMO, Gregg is worse that any one of those closers except maybe Rodney and Franklin.
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Add Jenks, Cordero and Valverde to the list of closers on 2nd tier/mediocre teams that I'd take over Gregg as well.