04-27-2009, 01:39 PM
<!--quoteo(post=33455:date=Apr 27 2009, 11:41 AM:name=cherp)-->QUOTE (cherp @ Apr 27 2009, 11:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=33434:date=Apr 27 2009, 09:57 AM:name=BT)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BT @ Apr 27 2009, 09:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I bet Kevin Towers is might proud of that hard line he took with the Peavy negotiations. "I want all of your good prospects, AND I want you to take this 81 million dollar contract off of my hands during the middle of a recession".
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BT - His team is 10-8 with a 43mm payroll and under 30mm in obligations for 2010. Why should he not be proud?
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Well, if he is basing his happiness on an 18 game stretch in April, he is a complete dipshit. Were the Marlins allowed to start printing playoff tickets when they were 11-1? Because they've lost 6 in a row. By the way, the Padres have lost 5 of their last 6. So their record on April 27 is about as relevant as the release date of Frank Stallone's next record.
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->Unless he is forced by ownership to dump Peavy later, and he is forced (by the market and by JPs NTC) to take less than they feel he is worth, he should be proud that he held his ground and didn't take it in the shorts and give up the (expected) best player on his team.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Why in God's name should he be "proud" that he didn't "take it in the shorts"? What negotiations are you looking at? He has a pitcher who in all likelihood will be owed roughly 52 million dollars for 3 years, or 81 million for 4 years. Do you have any idea what a fucking albatross that is in today's market? Getting ANY decent prospects, plus getting someone to take 52 million dollars off of your hands, would be a coup, not taking it in the shorts.
So, for Peavy to have value to Kevin Towers, the Padres need Peavy to lead them to the playoffs. That is unlikely to happen as
1: The Padres suck. This will become apparent over a 162 season, despite their 9-3 start.
2. The Dodgers are a lot better than the Padres
3. Peavy is pitching poorly.
So when Kev gets done patting himself on the back for taking a stand against the man, he will come to realize some very depressing truths. He is now stuck paying a guy 20 million dollars a year to pitch for a bad team, in a shitty economy. He also could have traded that guy and gotten no worse than 80 cents on the dollar. Now, until Peavy shows differently, his stock has dropped dramatically. So even if Towers wanted to deal him, unless he finds a brain dead GM, he will be lucky to get 50 cents on the dollar.
Even IF Peavy turns it around, he is not going to command the kind of package he would have netted the Padres in December. Most teams are starting to see the reality of the economy right now, and I can't imagine anyone is going to be shoveling 5 star prospects in Towers direction, while taking on a 50 million dollar contract. He had an opportunity, and he blew it.
Nice job Kev.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
BT - His team is 10-8 with a 43mm payroll and under 30mm in obligations for 2010. Why should he not be proud?
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Well, if he is basing his happiness on an 18 game stretch in April, he is a complete dipshit. Were the Marlins allowed to start printing playoff tickets when they were 11-1? Because they've lost 6 in a row. By the way, the Padres have lost 5 of their last 6. So their record on April 27 is about as relevant as the release date of Frank Stallone's next record.
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->Unless he is forced by ownership to dump Peavy later, and he is forced (by the market and by JPs NTC) to take less than they feel he is worth, he should be proud that he held his ground and didn't take it in the shorts and give up the (expected) best player on his team.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Why in God's name should he be "proud" that he didn't "take it in the shorts"? What negotiations are you looking at? He has a pitcher who in all likelihood will be owed roughly 52 million dollars for 3 years, or 81 million for 4 years. Do you have any idea what a fucking albatross that is in today's market? Getting ANY decent prospects, plus getting someone to take 52 million dollars off of your hands, would be a coup, not taking it in the shorts.
So, for Peavy to have value to Kevin Towers, the Padres need Peavy to lead them to the playoffs. That is unlikely to happen as
1: The Padres suck. This will become apparent over a 162 season, despite their 9-3 start.
2. The Dodgers are a lot better than the Padres
3. Peavy is pitching poorly.
So when Kev gets done patting himself on the back for taking a stand against the man, he will come to realize some very depressing truths. He is now stuck paying a guy 20 million dollars a year to pitch for a bad team, in a shitty economy. He also could have traded that guy and gotten no worse than 80 cents on the dollar. Now, until Peavy shows differently, his stock has dropped dramatically. So even if Towers wanted to deal him, unless he finds a brain dead GM, he will be lucky to get 50 cents on the dollar.
Even IF Peavy turns it around, he is not going to command the kind of package he would have netted the Padres in December. Most teams are starting to see the reality of the economy right now, and I can't imagine anyone is going to be shoveling 5 star prospects in Towers direction, while taking on a 50 million dollar contract. He had an opportunity, and he blew it.
I wish that I believed in Fate. I wish I didn't sleep so late. I used to be carried in the arms of cheerleaders.