01-28-2009, 08:43 PM
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I would've kept DeRosa and Pie. DeRosa is even more valuable to us now that we have Bradley than he was last year. And if we're going to sign Gathright, then why not just keep Pie. Pie's ceiling is much higher than Gathright's. They were moves that didn't need to be made -- and if you make them, then you should make sure you get something that can help you in return. I'm not seeing anything close to that.
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You're really underrating Heilman.
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I guess you're assuming that last year was a hiccup and he'll return to the same pitcher he was in '05-'07?
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I think he'll be much more like those 3 years than last year. Like Bush said, I think a change of scenery could be great for him. He just never seemed comfortable last year. It sounds like he's thrilled to be a Cub and hopefully it will bring out the best in him. This guy has a filthy sinker, it's just a matter of getting it over the plate which was never a problem until last year.
I would've kept DeRosa and Pie. DeRosa is even more valuable to us now that we have Bradley than he was last year. And if we're going to sign Gathright, then why not just keep Pie. Pie's ceiling is much higher than Gathright's. They were moves that didn't need to be made -- and if you make them, then you should make sure you get something that can help you in return. I'm not seeing anything close to that.
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You're really underrating Heilman.
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I guess you're assuming that last year was a hiccup and he'll return to the same pitcher he was in '05-'07?
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I think he'll be much more like those 3 years than last year. Like Bush said, I think a change of scenery could be great for him. He just never seemed comfortable last year. It sounds like he's thrilled to be a Cub and hopefully it will bring out the best in him. This guy has a filthy sinker, it's just a matter of getting it over the plate which was never a problem until last year.
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