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I know its early, but I'm pretty glad we didn't give up the farm for him. He kind of sucks. Another 6 ERs in only 3 innings so far. He's got to be hurt...right? I've had a sneaking suspicion for awhile that he's not entirely healthy.
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He was fantastic in his last few starts with the White Sox last season. Is he historically a slow starter?
Given the fact that our starting rotation appears to be our strength, I think you're right -- we didn't need to give up the farm to get Peavy. I don't think he's any better than Z, Demp, or Lilly. If we're going to sell the farm for a starting pitcher, it better be for someone like Halladay.
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<!--quoteo(post=88458:date=Apr 12 2010, 06:59 PM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ Apr 12 2010, 06:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->He was fantastic in his last few starts with the White Sox last season. Is he historically a slow starter?
Given the fact that our starting rotation appears to be our strength, I think you're right -- we didn't need to give up the farm to get Peavy. <b>I don't think he's any better than Z, Demp, or Lilly. </b>If we're going to sell the farm for a starting pitcher, it better be for someone like Halladay.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I don't think he is either. I expect him to have an ERA around 4.
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From what I saw, his mechanics are just not right. His fastball was pretty flat, and he was unable to locate his slider. I expected him to regress quite a bit in the AL and in a hitter friendly home park, but given how hittable he's looked in his first 2 starts, something may indeed be wrong with him. That trade still pisses me off, but less so these days.
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Peavy and Roberts: Possibly the two best trades never made?
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<!--quoteo(post=88465:date=Apr 12 2010, 07:52 PM:name=biggz)-->QUOTE (biggz @ Apr 12 2010, 07:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Peavy and Roberts: Possibly the two best trades never made?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
And Roberts is currently on the DL
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<!--quoteo(post=88466:date=Apr 12 2010, 08:52 PM:name=Clapp)-->QUOTE (Clapp @ Apr 12 2010, 08:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=88465:date=Apr 12 2010, 07:52 PM:name=biggz)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (biggz @ Apr 12 2010, 07:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Peavy and Roberts: Possibly the two best trades never made?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
And Roberts is currently on the DL
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I still wonder what might have been if we had Roberts in the playoffs during 2007-08. Probably wouldn't have made a bit of difference, but you never know if he could have been a sparkplug like Lofton was in 2003.
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It seems like there is something more going on then just the transition to the AL. His velocity also seems to be down.
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<!--quoteo(post=88539:date=Apr 13 2010, 10:58 AM:name=funkster)-->QUOTE (funkster @ Apr 13 2010, 10:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->It seems like there is something more going on then just the transition to the AL. His velocity also seems to be down.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
It's seemed like that ever since his Cy Young year.
And then there's this...
2.84 career home ERA
3.86 career road ERA
Thanks Petco!
You know what Carlos Zambrano's career road ERA is? 3.37.
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<!--quoteo(post=88554:date=Apr 13 2010, 11:34 AM:name=Clapp)-->QUOTE (Clapp @ Apr 13 2010, 11:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=88539:date=Apr 13 2010, 10:58 AM:name=funkster)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (funkster @ Apr 13 2010, 10:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->It seems like there is something more going on then just the transition to the AL. His velocity also seems to be down.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
It's seemed like that ever since his Cy Young year.
And then there's this...
2.84 career home ERA
3.86 career road ERA
Thanks Petco!
You know what Carlos Zambrano's career road ERA is? 3.37.
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But what's his road ERA since the 2008 all-star break?
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<!--quoteo(post=88556:date=Apr 13 2010, 10:36 AM:name=ColoradoCub)-->QUOTE (ColoradoCub @ Apr 13 2010, 10:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=88554:date=Apr 13 2010, 11:34 AM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Apr 13 2010, 11:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=88539:date=Apr 13 2010, 10:58 AM:name=funkster)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (funkster @ Apr 13 2010, 10:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->It seems like there is something more going on then just the transition to the AL. His velocity also seems to be down.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
It's seemed like that ever since his Cy Young year.
And then there's this...
2.84 career home ERA
3.86 career road ERA
Thanks Petco!
You know what Carlos Zambrano's career road ERA is? 3.37.
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But what's his road ERA since the 2008 all-star break?
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3.66 ERA in 191.2 IP
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<!--quoteo(post=88563:date=Apr 13 2010, 12:13 PM:name=Destined)-->QUOTE (Destined @ Apr 13 2010, 12:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=88556:date=Apr 13 2010, 10:36 AM:name=ColoradoCub)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ColoradoCub @ Apr 13 2010, 10:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=88554:date=Apr 13 2010, 11:34 AM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Apr 13 2010, 11:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=88539:date=Apr 13 2010, 10:58 AM:name=funkster)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (funkster @ Apr 13 2010, 10:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->It seems like there is something more going on then just the transition to the AL. His velocity also seems to be down.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
It's seemed like that ever since his Cy Young year.
And then there's this...
2.84 career home ERA
3.86 career road ERA
Thanks Petco!
You know what Carlos Zambrano's career road ERA is? 3.37.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
But what's his road ERA since the 2008 all-star break?
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
3.66 ERA in 191.2 IP
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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I didn't realize it was so low. Sure doesn't feel like it sometimes!
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