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So, our bullpen clearly sucks, is populated by kids who are going to repeatedly blow late inning leads, and be frustrating as hell all year. The calls have already begun for Hendry to go out and get some proven relievers for late inning help, with plenty of head-shaking that this hasn’t been done already. I know some (Butcher, you there?) think it’s not worth doing given the rest of the team and that we’re not close enough even WITH the late inning help, but imagine for a moment that we were.
It seems like when Hendry does go out and spend money on “proven vets” for middle relief (Eyre, Howry, Heilman) he gets lambasted for overpaying for mediocre pitchers who by definition might not be very good (or they’d be starters). When he doesn’t, he gets lambasted for a bullpen full of kids that are going to blow leads all the time. I’m not a huge Hendry fan these days and he should be fired for last year’s offseason alone, but man, Rock meet Hard Place.
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Hendry was also relying on having a very good Angel Guzman again this year. I guess you could blame him for relying on Guzman, but Guzman was a critical part of this team's success last year.
I guess I'm just having trouble thinking of solid bullpen pitchers that would have helped this team so significantly.
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Getting guys like Howry/Eyre/etc. isn't Hendry's problem - it's overpaying for them when he doesn't have to. See Grabow, John.
Now, with the youthful state of the pen, Hendry may HAVE to overpay just to get a guy like Howry/Eyre/etc., who won't have a show-stopping 3.00 ERA and 9 K per 9, but also won't walk 2 per inning.
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Hendry may have overpaid Howry and Eyre, but they did the job they were supposed to do. At least for the first few years. The problem is, that this year the money wasn't there too go get a top notch relief pitcher.
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Kiko Calero was available. I know we don't like to overpay for relievers, but I'd rather do that then throw unproven kids in critical situations. Calero was good last year and was affordable.
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They tried for him, but he pushed the bill. He wanted a two year deal at more money. Cubs only wanted to go with a one year deal because of his injury history. Calero fucked himself, because he had to settle for a minor league deal elsewhere.
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Indeed, but the trend is not good.
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Relievers are, by nature, volatile commodities. I think it'll work itself out. If it doesn't, though, I really hope we don't trade anything of any value for a reliever at the deadline.
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<!--quoteo(post=87811:date=Apr 10 2010, 10:07 AM:name=FlyAtTheThigh)-->QUOTE (FlyAtTheThigh @ Apr 10 2010, 10:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Relievers are, by nature, volatile commodities.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
While I can agree with this for the most part. I don't think many teams are going to get away with making their AAA roster their bullpen and calling it good.
Yeah I know its an exaggeration, we have a couple veterans, but most of our pen is young guys with no history and no experience. And other than Marmol the guys we do have, have kinda had mediocre careers. I'm not sure the talent even exists in the pen for it to work itself out. Its not good pitchers, struggling to start the season, its guys that shouldn't be in the league, or at the very least, shouldn't be pitching in the roles they are.
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<!--quoteo(post=87799:date=Apr 10 2010, 07:08 AM:name=veryzer)-->QUOTE (veryzer @ Apr 10 2010, 07:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Kiko Calero was available. I know we don't like to overpay for relievers, but I'd rather do that then throw unproven kids in critical situations. Calero was good last year and was affordable.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yep.
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<!--quoteo(post=87813:date=Apr 10 2010, 12:39 PM:name=Clapp)-->QUOTE (Clapp @ Apr 10 2010, 12:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=87799:date=Apr 10 2010, 07:08 AM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Apr 10 2010, 07:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Kiko Calero was available. I know we don't like to overpay for relievers, but I'd rather do that then throw unproven kids in critical situations. Calero was good last year and was affordable.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yep.
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I'm assuming there's a reason why he didn't land a ML deal *anywhere.*
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<!--quoteo(post=87989:date=Apr 10 2010, 05:33 PM:name=Ace)-->QUOTE (Ace @ Apr 10 2010, 05:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=87813:date=Apr 10 2010, 12:39 PM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Apr 10 2010, 12:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=87799:date=Apr 10 2010, 07:08 AM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Apr 10 2010, 07:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Kiko Calero was available. I know we don't like to overpay for relievers, but I'd rather do that then throw unproven kids in critical situations. Calero was good last year and was affordable.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yep.
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I'm assuming there's a reason why he didn't land a ML deal *anywhere.*
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The Mets signed him to a Minor League deal.
March 4, 2010 at 2:53pm CST
The Mets signed Kiko Calero to a minor league deal worth up to $1.5MM. He earns $850K if he makes the team, with another $650K available in incentives. There is no opt-out if the Mets send him to the minors.
As far as why he wasn't signed to a Major League deal, I am sure it has to do with his injury histroy
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So basically you're saying he was available for cheap. So again, we should have signed him because I'd rather have a proven veteran (who was good last year) than inexperienced kids.
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<!--quoteo(post=87991:date=Apr 10 2010, 06:40 PM:name=AnnoCatuli)-->QUOTE (AnnoCatuli @ Apr 10 2010, 06:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=87989:date=Apr 10 2010, 05:33 PM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Apr 10 2010, 05:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=87813:date=Apr 10 2010, 12:39 PM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Apr 10 2010, 12:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=87799:date=Apr 10 2010, 07:08 AM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Apr 10 2010, 07:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Kiko Calero was available. I know we don't like to overpay for relievers, but I'd rather do that then throw unproven kids in critical situations. Calero was good last year and was affordable.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yep.
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I'm assuming there's a reason why he didn't land a ML deal *anywhere.*
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The Mets signed him to a Minor League deal.
March 4, 2010 at 2:53pm CST
The Mets signed Kiko Calero to a minor league deal worth up to $1.5MM. He earns $850K if he makes the team, with another $650K available in incentives. There is no opt-out if the Mets send him to the minors.
As far as why he wasn't signed to a Major League deal, I am sure it has to do with his injury histroy
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Thank you, Mr. Explicit.
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