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Fukudome to the Nats?
#16
<!--quoteo(post=85886:date=Apr 5 2010, 01:45 AM:name=Clapp)-->QUOTE (Clapp @ Apr 5 2010, 01:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Soriano's annoying as hell, but if healthy(which he wasn't even close to for most of last year), he'll carry us for a month or two and put up big numbers. He always has. Shit, last April when he was healthy, he hit 7 homers and had a .955 OPS. He was our best player. I think we get 30+ homers out of him this year.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I agree
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#17
<!--quoteo(post=85888:date=Apr 5 2010, 03:05 AM:name=Fella)-->QUOTE (Fella @ Apr 5 2010, 03:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=85886:date=Apr 5 2010, 01:45 AM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Apr 5 2010, 01:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Soriano's annoying as hell, but if healthy(which he wasn't even close to for most of last year), he'll carry us for a month or two and put up big numbers. He always has. Shit, last April when he was healthy, he hit 7 homers and had a .955 OPS. He was our best player. I think we get 30+ homers out of him this year.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I agree
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Yep, and I'm not a huge fan either.
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#18
<!--quoteo(post=85873:date=Apr 5 2010, 12:03 AM:name=KBwsb)-->QUOTE (KBwsb @ Apr 5 2010, 12:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=85852:date=Apr 4 2010, 09:16 PM:name=Scarey)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Scarey @ Apr 4 2010, 09:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=85805:date=Apr 4 2010, 03:41 PM:name=KBwsb)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KBwsb @ Apr 4 2010, 03:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Agree with Clapp and rok; mostly because we won't know if Clovin is "for real" for a year or two.
He's sucked for <i>years</i>. Now he's had one good month playing practice baseball, and we want to anoint him our everyday guy?

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It doesn't take much away from your point, but Colvin had a fantastic year at AA last year. It's not just his spring training.
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Hmmm...Colvin had a .332 OBP last year, despite playing a portion of the year in A-ball.
Up at Double A, his OBP was .334.
For a corner OFer, that would suck in the <i>majors</i>, much less the low minors.

I consider you one of the foremost authorities on our farm guys, Scarey, but I'm gonna have to disagree with you that a .334 OBP in AA is fantastic. I'm guessing that translates to about a .300 OBP in MLB, which is like the Mendoza line for getting on base.
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I too would like to see his OBP bump up some more. However, you can't just have blinders on when looking at these minor league stats. The way that Colvin has driven the ball the last 10 months is very impressive especially considering the Cubs minor league system is light on power right now.

Don't get me wrong. There is a very high correlation between minor league OBP and major league success. However, these aren't just number readouts here. Each of these players has a story to tell here. Let's take Theriot for an example.

When Theriot came up and raked, there were some people that weren't very educated on his minor league career and felt he was the next big thing based on his immediate success and some people that were condemning him from the start because of his minor league stats. There were some people however (like me, I know this is a total "told you so moment") that wanted to take the wait and see approach. Why? The Cubs experimented with trying to teach Theriot how to switch hit. The theory was that all the PAs he took as a lefty against RHP may have driven his stats down. His number in the minors improved after they changed him to strictly a righty. This makes a lot of sense to us now because we know Theriot has a knack for taking RHP to right field as a rightly.

My point is, the stats didn't tell the whole story in Theriot's case. For Colvin, he's had to deal with a couple of injuries as he's progressed through the minor league system. On top of that, he now seems to be squaring the ball up VERY well now and has put on some weight to increase his bat speed. These factors can at least decrease his Ks. Who knows if he'll ever be a decent IsoD guy. If I'm putting money on it, I would bet he won't. Regardless, he could be a decent contributor ala Randall Simon or with any luck, a Garrett Anderson type.
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#19
The "Theriot switch-hitting experiment" is a very good example of a reason to look beyond the stats, I admit. But you would have to admit that that is a unique, very rare situation. To my knowledge, Colvin doesn't have anything remotely that weird that would be an excuse for driving his stats down.

OTOH, as Soto proved a few years ago, a dramatic weight gain/loss can really turn on a switch, and Colvin adding major muscle is a big deal. So let's hope he can lay off the tricky out-of-the-zone pitches, because if he can, he's proven that he can drive the ball.
There's nothing better than to realize that the good things about youth don't end with youth itself. It's a matter of realizing that life can be renewed every day you get out of bed without baggage. It's tough to get there, but it's better than the dark thoughts. -Lance
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#20
<!--quoteo(post=86470:date=Apr 6 2010, 12:05 AM:name=KBwsb)-->QUOTE (KBwsb @ Apr 6 2010, 12:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->The "Theriot switch-hitting experiment" is a very good example of a reason to look beyond the stats, I admit. But you would have to admit that that is a unique, very rare situation. To my knowledge, Colvin doesn't have anything remotely that weird that would be an excuse for driving his stats down.

OTOH, as Soto proved a few years ago, a dramatic weight gain/loss can really turn on a switch, and Colvin adding major muscle is a big deal. So let's hope he can lay off the tricky out-of-the-zone pitches, because if he can, he's proven that he can drive the ball.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->


Conditioning makes a huge difference. There are some who can carry a belly and preform [John Kruk; the Perry, Neikro, and Ruschel brothers; Greg Luzinski; the Fielders (Cecil and Prince); and several other examples]. However, those are pretty rare specimens overall. Most players have to work on conditioning 365 a year, and those that don't get passed by. As long as Colvin and Soto keep at it, they will likely be productive and contribute. One other factor can simply be that for some players, things just seem to "click" at a certain point. For some, it's early on, for others it comes later on in their careers (Jamie Moyer didn't "click" until his 30's). Regardless, when we see young guys like Colvin and Soto come into camp motivated and in peak condition, it's not a stretch to believe that good things will follow.
"Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of Truth and Knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods." Albert Einstein
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#21
Wow, an MBS sighting! How's <i>ITI</i> these days?
One dick can poke an eye out. A hundred dicks can move mountains.
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#22
<!--quoteo(post=86619:date=Apr 7 2010, 12:21 AM:name=VanSlawAndCottoCheese)-->QUOTE (VanSlawAndCottoCheese @ Apr 7 2010, 12:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Wow, an MBS sighting! How's <i>ITI</i> these days?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->


A lot of same-old, same-old... 0-4 "sky is falling" trip and a lot of the usual mostly. There are some really good posters, but by and large, a lot of uni kids and the occasional poster using IVY as their emotional tampon.

It's good to post again here~ see you in the threads! [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/biggrin.gif[/img]
"Whoever undertakes to set himself up as a judge of Truth and Knowledge is shipwrecked by the laughter of the gods." Albert Einstein
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#23
I hate all the over reacting to one game.
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#24
<!--quoteo(post=86640:date=Apr 7 2010, 10:22 AM:name=AnnoCatuli)-->QUOTE (AnnoCatuli @ Apr 7 2010, 10:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I hate all the over reacting to one game.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You know all of the posts in here about Fukudome and Soriano were before the game, right?
@TheBlogfines
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