Roy Halladay

[Scarey]

I remember him stating that he wants to follow the Red Sox on how they built their team by developing the farm and filling gaps with quality free agents. During his introductory press conference though, I believe he was referring specifically to the way they built up Fenway.

[leonardsipes]

There arn't a whole lot of teams with the ability to add a 15 mil contract. I don't think the Cubs will have to give up Castro. I wouldn't hang up about extending him, either.

[Jody]

<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->I wouldn't hang up about extending him, either.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->


Maybe the gayest thing ever said in this forum.

[kbwsb]

<!--quoteo(post=69998:date=Nov 23 2009, 04:27 PM:name=rok)-->QUOTE (rok @ Nov 23 2009, 04:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=69997:date=Nov 23 2009, 04:26 PM:name=ColoradoCub)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ColoradoCub @ Nov 23 2009, 04:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=69994:date=Nov 23 2009, 03:16 PM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Nov 23 2009, 03:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=69989:date=Nov 23 2009, 03:50 PM:name=BT)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BT @ Nov 23 2009, 03:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->My finger hurts too much to type an opus, suffice to say that a team with resources like the Cubs should have very brief "closed" windows, if they have windows at all. They should have money for free agents, scouting, and signing draft picks that others are wary of.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yep.

If the current window closes, which appears to be happening in the next 1-2 years, you would hope that we could fill any holes with new players, whether by trade, FA or internal player development. I know we're not there yet, but if we follow the Red Sox model as Ricketts has stated, we should at the very least be contenders year in and year out. Maybe we won't be a powerhouse, but at a minimum, we could and should be a factor in the playoff race every season.
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I thought Ricketts' comments about the "Red Sox Model" had more to do with renovating Wrigley Field than how the team was built?
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I took it to mean both with respect to the fan/ballpark experience and the organizational model as well. You could be right though, and I could be assuming too much.
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I hate to say it, rok, but you are. The "Red Sox model" concerns Fenway/Wrigley, period.
If we were following the "Red Sox method," things like the recent Grabow deal would not have been even remotely considered.

We're following the Hendry method.

[biggz]

I just hope we don't use the "pull out and pray" method.

[ruby23]

<!--quoteo(post=70003:date=Nov 23 2009, 04:56 PM:name=KBwsb)-->QUOTE (KBwsb @ Nov 23 2009, 04:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=69998:date=Nov 23 2009, 04:27 PM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Nov 23 2009, 04:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=69997:date=Nov 23 2009, 04:26 PM:name=ColoradoCub)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ColoradoCub @ Nov 23 2009, 04:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=69994:date=Nov 23 2009, 03:16 PM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Nov 23 2009, 03:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=69989:date=Nov 23 2009, 03:50 PM:name=BT)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BT @ Nov 23 2009, 03:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->My finger hurts too much to type an opus, suffice to say that a team with resources like the Cubs should have very brief "closed" windows, if they have windows at all. They should have money for free agents, scouting, and signing draft picks that others are wary of.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yep.

If the current window closes, which appears to be happening in the next 1-2 years, you would hope that we could fill any holes with new players, whether by trade, FA or internal player development. I know we're not there yet, but if we follow the Red Sox model as Ricketts has stated, we should at the very least be contenders year in and year out. Maybe we won't be a powerhouse, but at a minimum, we could and should be a factor in the playoff race every season.
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I thought Ricketts' comments about the "Red Sox Model" had more to do with renovating Wrigley Field than how the team was built?
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I took it to mean both with respect to the fan/ballpark experience and the organizational model as well. You could be right though, and I could be assuming too much.
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I hate to say it, rok, but you are. The "Red Sox model" concerns Fenway/Wrigley, period.
If we were following the "Red Sox method," things like the recent Grabow deal would not have been even remotely considered.

We're following the Hendry method.
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I think I'm pretty much done trying to even attempt to have a meaningful conversation with you.

[kbwsb]

Good news to me.

[BT]

<!--quoteo(post=70003:date=Nov 23 2009, 04:56 PM:name=KBwsb)-->QUOTE (KBwsb @ Nov 23 2009, 04:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=69998:date=Nov 23 2009, 04:27 PM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Nov 23 2009, 04:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=69997:date=Nov 23 2009, 04:26 PM:name=ColoradoCub)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ColoradoCub @ Nov 23 2009, 04:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=69994:date=Nov 23 2009, 03:16 PM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Nov 23 2009, 03:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=69989:date=Nov 23 2009, 03:50 PM:name=BT)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BT @ Nov 23 2009, 03:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->My finger hurts too much to type an opus, suffice to say that a team with resources like the Cubs should have very brief "closed" windows, if they have windows at all. They should have money for free agents, scouting, and signing draft picks that others are wary of.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yep.

If the current window closes, which appears to be happening in the next 1-2 years, you would hope that we could fill any holes with new players, whether by trade, FA or internal player development. I know we're not there yet, but if we follow the Red Sox model as Ricketts has stated, we should at the very least be contenders year in and year out. Maybe we won't be a powerhouse, but at a minimum, we could and should be a factor in the playoff race every season.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I thought Ricketts' comments about the "Red Sox Model" had more to do with renovating Wrigley Field than how the team was built?
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I took it to mean both with respect to the fan/ballpark experience and the organizational model as well. You could be right though, and I could be assuming too much.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I hate to say it, rok, but you are. The "Red Sox model" concerns Fenway/Wrigley, period.
If we were following the "Red Sox method," things like the recent Grabow deal would not have been even remotely considered.

We're following the Hendry method.
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Finger hurt. KB wrong. Rok right.

ricketts says

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[ruby23]

<!--quoteo(post=70008:date=Nov 23 2009, 05:25 PM:name=KBwsb)-->QUOTE (KBwsb @ Nov 23 2009, 05:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Good news to me.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You do realize that no one here takes you serious, correct?

[Ace]

<!--quoteo(post=70034:date=Nov 24 2009, 02:50 AM:name=PcB)-->QUOTE (PcB @ Nov 24 2009, 02:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I thought about deleting that, but it's too damn good.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Sorry, can't leave up the spam - especially the links.

[Coldneck]

<!--quoteo(post=70003:date=Nov 23 2009, 05:56 PM:name=KBwsb)-->QUOTE (KBwsb @ Nov 23 2009, 05:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=69998:date=Nov 23 2009, 04:27 PM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Nov 23 2009, 04:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=69997:date=Nov 23 2009, 04:26 PM:name=ColoradoCub)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ColoradoCub @ Nov 23 2009, 04:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=69994:date=Nov 23 2009, 03:16 PM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Nov 23 2009, 03:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=69989:date=Nov 23 2009, 03:50 PM:name=BT)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BT @ Nov 23 2009, 03:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->My finger hurts too much to type an opus, suffice to say that a team with resources like the Cubs should have very brief "closed" windows, if they have windows at all. They should have money for free agents, scouting, and signing draft picks that others are wary of.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yep.

If the current window closes, which appears to be happening in the next 1-2 years, you would hope that we could fill any holes with new players, whether by trade, FA or internal player development. I know we're not there yet, but if we follow the Red Sox model as Ricketts has stated, we should at the very least be contenders year in and year out. Maybe we won't be a powerhouse, but at a minimum, we could and should be a factor in the playoff race every season.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I thought Ricketts' comments about the "Red Sox Model" had more to do with renovating Wrigley Field than how the team was built?
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I took it to mean both with respect to the fan/ballpark experience and the organizational model as well. You could be right though, and I could be assuming too much.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I hate to say it, rok, but you are. The "Red Sox model" concerns Fenway/Wrigley, period.
If we were following the "Red Sox method," things like the recent Grabow deal would not have been even remotely considered.

We're following the Hendry method.
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No matter what Rickett's says I'll beleive it when I see it. That Grabow deal was unneccessary and retarded. Hendry's not off to a good start and is continuing to commit future money when he doesn't have to. Especially in a down economy. Hendry should not be our GM. It is that simple. If we want to follow the Red Sox plan Jim Hendry needs to go. The whole reason why we have this short window is because of Hendry's mismanagement of dollars. He backloaded every contract and now we have no financial flexibility.

[bz]

Ruby, obviously Daifan does.

[PcB]

I thought about deleting that, but it's too damn good.

[Rappster]

<!--quoteo(post=70021:date=Nov 23 2009, 10:12 PM:name=ruby23)-->QUOTE (ruby23 @ Nov 23 2009, 10:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=70008:date=Nov 23 2009, 05:25 PM:name=KBwsb)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KBwsb @ Nov 23 2009, 05:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Good news to me.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You do realize that no one here takes you serious, correct?
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I take him seriously...understand his arguments...and find you impossible to read.

[Andy]

I know this is a little over the top, but what about this trade:

Cubs get Halladay.
Bluejays get DLee & 2 pitching prospects.

Cubs pick up Nick Johnson as a free agent.