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All Time Best Cubs - Shortstop - Andy - 12-23-2008
1. Ernie Banks
2. Bill Dahlen
3. Woody English
4. Shawon Dunston
5. Joe Tinker
Another thin position. I almost thought about pulling some of the guys from the OF that played "some" games at SS. Tinker's numbers are horrible offensively.
All Time Best Cubs - Shortstop - veryzer - 12-23-2008
<!--quoteo(post=6666:date=Dec 23 2008, 10:06 AM:name=Andy)-->QUOTE (Andy @ Dec 23 2008, 10:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->1. Ernie Banks
2. Bill Dahlen
3. Woody English
4. Shawon Dunston
5. Joe Tinker
Another thin position. I almost thought about pulling some of the guys from the OF that played "some" games at SS. Tinker's numbers are horrible offensively.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
1. shawon dunston
2. rickey gutierrez
3. ryan theriot
4. ivan dejesus
5. larry bowa
i absolutely refuse to put alex gonzalez on that list.
All Time Best Cubs - Shortstop - Mikey - 12-23-2008
Jeff Blauser
All Time Best Cubs - Shortstop - veryzer - 12-23-2008
let me also add that if i was going all time and not just plyers i've seen, i would have gone with don kessinger of bill dahlen or joe tinkers.
All Time Best Cubs - Shortstop - Mikey - 12-23-2008
Nomar
All Time Best Cubs - Shortstop - rok - 12-23-2008
Position by position, we've had some pretty atrocious players historically. It's no wonder we haven't won anything in forever.
And you guys forgot about Neifi "Mr. Everything" Perez.
All Time Best Cubs - Shortstop - Mikey - 12-23-2008
Rey Sanchez
All Time Best Cubs - Shortstop - Mikey - 12-23-2008
Octavio Augie Ojeda
All Time Best Cubs - Shortstop - Mikey - 12-23-2008
Jose Hernandez
All Time Best Cubs - Shortstop - Destined - 12-23-2008
Jose Nieves
All Time Best Cubs - Shortstop - ChiTownLouCrew - 12-23-2008
Augie Ojeda was awsome!! Way better than any of the bums you guys are naming. Ernie who?
All Time Best Cubs - Shortstop - wcplummer - 12-23-2008
<!--quoteo(post=6681:date=Dec 23 2008, 10:53 AM:name=rok)-->QUOTE (rok @ Dec 23 2008, 10:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Position by position, we've had some pretty atrocious players historically. It's no wonder we haven't won anything in forever.
And you guys forgot about Neifi "Mr. Everything" Perez.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I agree. We need to stop doing this it. It is very depressing.
All Time Best Cubs - Shortstop - Andy - 12-23-2008
<!--quoteo(post=6715:date=Dec 23 2008, 01:34 PM:name=wcplummer)-->QUOTE (wcplummer @ Dec 23 2008, 01:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=6681:date=Dec 23 2008, 10:53 AM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Dec 23 2008, 10:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Position by position, we've had some pretty atrocious players historically. It's no wonder we haven't won anything in forever.
And you guys forgot about Neifi "Mr. Everything" Perez.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I agree. We need to stop doing this it. It is very depressing.
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We're coming up to some seriously loaded positions. So I sure as hell am not stopping now. 3B has a number of solid players. OF is loaded. P is loaded.
All Time Best Cubs - Shortstop - kbwsb - 12-23-2008
The truth is, Wrigley the duece didn't believe in that whole newfangled concept of a "farm system."
He also was late to the table in signing black players, had no eye for talent, and treated the franchise kind of like an expensive toy.
But it was the lack of a farm system that really fucked the Cubs from the 40's till the 60's.
Since then, they've had their chances, but just had bad luck...the team could have easily been like the Tigers or Phillies of the past 40 years (long stretches of weak teams, then the occasional good team that wins the Series, or at least gets there), but...well bad luck.
1969
1984
2003
2008
Those are 4 years when the Cubs could have easily made it to, or even won the Series, but things just didn't fall their way.
All Time Best Cubs - Shortstop - Captain - 12-23-2008
1.Banks
2. Dunston
3. Kessinger
4. Dahlen
5. Dejesus- English ( tie)
Alex Gonzalez didnt even enter the equation.