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Command versus Control - Ace - 04-16-2010
Something has really been bothering me lately, and I keep seeing it so often that I'm starting to question whether maybe I'm just wrong.
I keep seeing media people using "command" and "control" interchangeably. In my mind, that's not right. "Command" is the ability to throw your various pitches - fastball, sinker, curve, etc. - when you want to, and throw them effectively for strikes. "Control," on the other hand, is the ability to locate your pitches, and generally throw strikes.
So am I wrong, or are people just getting really lazy with their words?
Command versus Control - BT - 04-16-2010
<!--quoteo(post=90231:date=Apr 16 2010, 09:30 PM:name=Ace)-->QUOTE (Ace @ Apr 16 2010, 09:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Something has really been bothering me lately, and I keep seeing it so often that I'm starting to question whether maybe I'm just wrong.
I keep seeing media people using "command" and "control" interchangeably. In my mind, that's not right. "Command" is the ability to throw your various pitches - fastball, sinker, curve, etc. - when you want to, and throw them effectively for strikes. "Control," on the other hand, is the ability to locate your pitches, and generally throw strikes.
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You are right, but if you have no control, it would be tough to have command as well.
I suppose you could say command is your ability to put what you want, where you want. Control is the ability to throw strikes.
Command versus Control - Ace - 04-16-2010
<!--quoteo(post=90235:date=Apr 16 2010, 10:33 PM:name=BT)-->QUOTE (BT @ Apr 16 2010, 10:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=90231:date=Apr 16 2010, 09:30 PM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Apr 16 2010, 09:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Something has really been bothering me lately, and I keep seeing it so often that I'm starting to question whether maybe I'm just wrong.
I keep seeing media people using "command" and "control" interchangeably. In my mind, that's not right. "Command" is the ability to throw your various pitches - fastball, sinker, curve, etc. - when you want to, and throw them effectively for strikes. "Control," on the other hand, is the ability to locate your pitches, and generally throw strikes.
So am I wrong, or are people just getting really lazy with their words?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You are right, but if you have no control, it would be tough to have command as well.
I suppose you could say command is your ability to put what you want, where you want. Control is the ability to throw strikes.
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Yeah. I think they're obviously related (that is to say, good command will require some good control), but definitely not the same thing.
Command versus Control - jstraw - 04-16-2010
Len read this very question from viewer email to Bob in the booth the other day.
Command versus Control - Brock - 04-16-2010
<!--quoteo(post=90239:date=Apr 16 2010, 09:39 PM:name=jstraw)-->QUOTE (jstraw @ Apr 16 2010, 09:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Len read this very question from viewer email to Bob in the booth the other day.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Are you calling Ace a plagiarist?
Command versus Control - jstraw - 04-16-2010
<!--quoteo(post=90246:date=Apr 16 2010, 09:59 PM:name=Brock)-->QUOTE (Brock @ Apr 16 2010, 09:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=90239:date=Apr 16 2010, 09:39 PM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Apr 16 2010, 09:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Len read this very question from viewer email to Bob in the booth the other day.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Are you calling Ace a plagiarist?
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No. Plagiarism would be regurgitating Bob's answer.
Command versus Control - Destined - 04-17-2010
Ace, you got it. Control is throwing strikes or locating pitches on the plate. Command is strategically pitching your pitches.
It's a lot like the difference between a thrower, and a pitcher. A thrower(Shark) uses speed and movement to throw the ball to try to get guys out. A pitcher(Wells) locates his different pitches according to a strategy.
Command versus Control - bz - 04-17-2010
What if someone were to say that a pitcher "has command of the strike zone?"
Command versus Control - mindbodyspirit - 04-17-2010
Command is when Mistress delivers orders... Control is when Mistress decides what you will feel... [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/grin.gif[/img]
Just joking, man~ You've got it right.
Command versus Control - Ace - 04-17-2010
<!--quoteo(post=90251:date=Apr 16 2010, 11:14 PM:name=jstraw)-->QUOTE (jstraw @ Apr 16 2010, 11:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=90246:date=Apr 16 2010, 09:59 PM:name=Brock)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brock @ Apr 16 2010, 09:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=90239:date=Apr 16 2010, 09:39 PM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Apr 16 2010, 09:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Len read this very question from viewer email to Bob in the booth the other day.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Are you calling Ace a plagiarist?
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No. Plagiarism would be regurgitating Bob's answer.
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Just curious: what was Bob's answer?
Command versus Control - jstraw - 04-17-2010
<!--quoteo(post=90293:date=Apr 17 2010, 07:33 AM:name=Ace)-->QUOTE (Ace @ Apr 17 2010, 07:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=90251:date=Apr 16 2010, 11:14 PM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Apr 16 2010, 11:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=90246:date=Apr 16 2010, 09:59 PM:name=Brock)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brock @ Apr 16 2010, 09:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=90239:date=Apr 16 2010, 09:39 PM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Apr 16 2010, 09:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Len read this very question from viewer email to Bob in the booth the other day.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Are you calling Ace a plagiarist?
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No. Plagiarism would be regurgitating Bob's answer.
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Just curious: what was Bob's answer?
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I have no fucking clue. You both sounded like you're just making shit up.
Command versus Control - Fella - 04-17-2010
<!--quoteo(post=90293:date=Apr 17 2010, 06:33 AM:name=Ace)-->QUOTE (Ace @ Apr 17 2010, 06:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=90251:date=Apr 16 2010, 11:14 PM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Apr 16 2010, 11:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=90246:date=Apr 16 2010, 09:59 PM:name=Brock)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brock @ Apr 16 2010, 09:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=90239:date=Apr 16 2010, 09:39 PM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Apr 16 2010, 09:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Len read this very question from viewer email to Bob in the booth the other day.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Are you calling Ace a plagiarist?
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No. Plagiarism would be regurgitating Bob's answer.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Just curious: what was Bob's answer?
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He said he thought they were interchangeable words that pretty much meant the same thing. No joke.
Command versus Control - Ace - 04-17-2010
<!--quoteo(post=90303:date=Apr 17 2010, 10:15 AM:name=Fella)-->QUOTE (Fella @ Apr 17 2010, 10:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=90293:date=Apr 17 2010, 06:33 AM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Apr 17 2010, 06:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=90251:date=Apr 16 2010, 11:14 PM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Apr 16 2010, 11:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=90246:date=Apr 16 2010, 09:59 PM:name=Brock)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brock @ Apr 16 2010, 09:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=90239:date=Apr 16 2010, 09:39 PM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Apr 16 2010, 09:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Len read this very question from viewer email to Bob in the booth the other day.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Are you calling Ace a plagiarist?
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No. Plagiarism would be regurgitating Bob's answer.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Just curious: what was Bob's answer?
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He said he thought they were interchangeable words that pretty much meant the same thing. No joke.
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Hmm. Well, does that mean we're all wrong? Like, wouldn't he know?
I still tend to think there's a clear difference.
Command versus Control - cigar - 04-17-2010
<!--quoteo(post=90303:date=Apr 17 2010, 09:15 AM:name=Fella)-->QUOTE (Fella @ Apr 17 2010, 09:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=90293:date=Apr 17 2010, 06:33 AM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Apr 17 2010, 06:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=90251:date=Apr 16 2010, 11:14 PM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Apr 16 2010, 11:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=90246:date=Apr 16 2010, 09:59 PM:name=Brock)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brock @ Apr 16 2010, 09:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=90239:date=Apr 16 2010, 09:39 PM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Apr 16 2010, 09:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Len read this very question from viewer email to Bob in the booth the other day.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Are you calling Ace a plagiarist?
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No. Plagiarism would be regurgitating Bob's answer.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Just curious: what was Bob's answer?
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He said he thought they were interchangeable words that pretty much meant the same thing. No joke.
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I think he is pretty much right but I care to little to really get into it. I get what Ace is saying but I still don't think there is that much difference. When you know little about a pitcher and you hear he has good command don't you assume he is going to have good control? I don't see a big of enough difference for it to be a big deal.
Command versus Control - dk123 - 04-17-2010
I think the terms are interchangeable, and Ace is just being the Semantics King. I guess it beats being the Semetics King, but I still wouldn't brag about it.