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Question marks surround Jeff Samardzija as he heads into free agency, writes ESPN Chicagos Doug Padilla. The right-hander closed out the season with a pair of excellent starts, but that does little to erase the dismal August through which Samardzija suffered. Samardzija candidly said he's not overly concerned with how much money he earns in free agency from a personal standpoint. Rather, his concern in contract negotiations has always been to preserve market value and set precedents for those who come after him. "I had enough money when I signed with the Cubs back in 2006," said Samardzija, referring to the $10MM deal he signed with the Cubs to forgo his football career. "So, like I said before, for me it's more about a professional thing and respecting the guys that came before me that have put us in this situation in this game. To make the money we make, and have the fun we have, and travel the way we travel, that needs to be continued by players that are coming behind me and current players. For me, that's important." Samardzija spoke highly of his time with the White Sox, saying the team has a number of great pieces in place that will help right the ship in future seasons and sounded open to a return.
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So he will be completely fine taking a 4/50 contract, because that is his market value. For some reason I think he believes he is a 15-17 million dollar guy and that's just not true. His market will be a very interesting one.
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Quote:So he will be completely fine taking a 4/50 contract, because that is his market value. For some reason I think he believes he is a 15-17 million dollar guy and that's just not true. His market will be a very interesting one.
I'd swallow my pride if he wanted to sign a 2yr/$25M deal to be our 4th or 5th starter.
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My gut tells me he will head to NY to re-join Rothschild.
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Quote:<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Runnys" data-cid="261970" data-time="1443706080">
So he will be completely fine taking a 4/50 contract, because that is his market value. For some reason I think he believes he is a 15-17 million dollar guy and that's just not true. His market will be a very interesting one.
I'd swallow my pride if he wanted to sign a 2yr/$25M deal to be our 4th or 5th starter.</blockquote>
As would I, but, no way that happens.
On a side note, what option would people prefer when it comes to FA this offseason. Signing two pitchers in the Gallardo/Fister tier or just signing one big guy (price, Zimmerman, etc) and keeping Hendricks as our 5? As a 5, I think Hendricks is fine. And he is cheap for a while longer.
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I'm not interested in either assuming their current teams extend them QO's. I think Gallardo will get one but not Fister. I'm actually feeling greedy and would prefer to hang onto both Baez and Castro, not deal either of them for pitching unless we are blown away by the return. Just take our chances on a 2nd tier SP (Leake?) for a reasonable 5-6 year deal.
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I don't want Shark for any price. I'm not kidding.
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I like keeping our 5th starter as a homegrown piece. If Hendricks isn't cutting it next season, there will be kids coming through the farm system that would love to take his place. I'd much prefer to keep the price tag low on the 5th starter. On the 4th, look for a sub-$10M type of guy.
If we go out and get Zimmerman. That leaves us with Arrieta, Lester, Zimmerman, Hammel, Hendricks. That's a pretty impressive group of pitchers. Adding Shark would actually cost more and do less than Hammel.
I got nothin'.
Andy
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Shark isn't any better than Hendricks. And probably worse, actually. Giving him $10M a year would be worse than lighting a pile of money on fire because you'd be stuck with his sorry ass for X amount of years.
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I'm with Butch 100% on this one. Look at Shark's peripherals season by season. Aside from 2014, he's been very mediocre, not worth $10-15 mil annually. His 2015 was beyond brutal. I'm tired of hearing about how young his arm is. He's dead between the ears.
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You guys are acting like the meatballs that post on cubs.com. Shark had a bad couple months. He's still throwing the ball 95 MPH. He's a quality pitcher. He;s thrown 200+ innings for 4 years in a row. He's not and ace, but if he's you're 4th or 5th starter that means you have one hell of a rotation. I'm a buyer at 2yr/$25M. I think he gets closer to 4yr/$55M unless he decides to accept a 1 year deal to reestablish his value.
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"his concern in contract negotiations has always been to preserve market value and set precedents for those who come after him"
That's World Class Bullshit.
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Quote:You guys are acting like the meatballs that post on cubs.com. Shark had a bad couple months. He's still throwing the ball 95 MPH. He's a quality pitcher. He;s thrown 200+ innings for 4 years in a row. He's not and ace, but if he's you're 4th or 5th starter that means you have one hell of a rotation. I'm a buyer at 2yr/$25M. I think he gets closer to 4yr/$55M unless he decides to accept a 1 year deal to reestablish his value.
Ummm. He wasn't just bad this season. He was dogshit. In a contract year.
ERA+: 79. He led the league in hits allowed (228), earned runs given up (118), and home runs allowed (29).
I guess the 95mph and 200 innings are nice, but Jason Marquis gave us 200 innings, too. No fucking way you give him $12M a season. Not when you can get a guy off the scrapheap who will put up similar numbers for next to nothing.
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Shark is durable and that is valuable, but I'm not paying him $15-20 million per for 5 years (that's what he's looking for, not a 2-year below market deal), and just hope that he'll earn it over his age 31-35 seasons. Not after he spent several months pouting because he wasn't traded at the deadline. That's not conjecture on my part either, as it's been reported locally that he hasn't been able to keep it together after several deals fell through.
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As a starter, Shark was good in 2012 (era+ 107), bad in 2013 (89), very good in 2014 (125), terrible in 2015 (79). He's going to want to be paid as a #2 pitcher. That lands him pretty solidly in the $13-16M a season area. He's not worth that, in my opinion. I'd much prefer to stick with Hammel at 3 and get a $10M pitcher at 4. Keep Hendricks or the next farm system kid at 5.
We've all seen Samardzija's best. When he's completely on, he's a solid #2 on just about any team. The problem is he'll go an entire season of being shitty. He's done it at every level of baseball. He's had a good year, then terrible. His inconsistency makes it hard to spend the money he's going to want on him.
I got nothin'.
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