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Kerry Wood To The Tribe
#31
That's a pretty solid point, Butch, but the truth is that I believe there does exist something that we could call "high-leverage" innings.

Also, there is some pretty compelling evidence that the main things that help a team win during the 162-games schedule, are similar, <i>but a little different</i> from those required to thrive in a short playoff series against an elite team. And the biggest difference seems to be the near-requirement of an superior closer.
There's nothing better than to realize that the good things about youth don't end with youth itself. It's a matter of realizing that life can be renewed every day you get out of bed without baggage. It's tough to get there, but it's better than the dark thoughts. -Lance
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#32
K-Rod's deal, is a bargain. He's never had a single injury problem, he'll have an ERA under 3, and he's a dominating closer every year. The game's over when he comes in, and if the Mets had him last year, there's a very good chance the Phillies aren't world champions.

Kerry Wood, eh, it's quite a gamble and I wouldn't have given him this deal even if we didn't have other needs.
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#33
<!--quoteo(post=4558:date=Dec 13 2008, 04:54 PM:name=KBwsb)-->QUOTE (KBwsb @ Dec 13 2008, 04:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->That's a pretty solid point, Butch, but the truth is that I believe there does exist something that we could call "high-leverage" innings.

Also, there is some pretty compelling evidence that the main things that help a team win during the 162-games schedule, are similar, <i>but a little different</i> from those required to thrive in a short playoff series against an elite team. And the biggest difference seems to be the near-requirement of an superior closer.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Of course there are high-leverage innings. Know who got most of those innings last year? It wasn't Wood, it was Marmol.

More often than not, your closer is coming into the game with more than a 1-run lead and usually isn't facing the heart of the order, with nobody on base.

Marmol, <i>in his current role, </i>is worth around $10M. Wood, in his current role, isn't. Lou would be smart to keep Marmol right where he is and give either Gregg or Shark a shot to pitch the 9th.

And if the Mets were smart, they'd use K-Rod in the same role Marmol is in. Marmol is infinitely more valuable *not* as the 9th inning guy.
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#34
<!--quoteo(post=4569:date=Dec 13 2008, 06:10 PM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ Dec 13 2008, 06:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=4558:date=Dec 13 2008, 04:54 PM:name=KBwsb)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KBwsb @ Dec 13 2008, 04:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->That's a pretty solid point, Butch, but the truth is that I believe there does exist something that we could call "high-leverage" innings.

Also, there is some pretty compelling evidence that the main things that help a team win during the 162-games schedule, are similar, <i>but a little different</i> from those required to thrive in a short playoff series against an elite team. And the biggest difference seems to be the near-requirement of an superior closer.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Of course there are high-leverage innings. Know who got most of those innings last year? It wasn't Wood, it was Marmol.

More often than not, your closer is coming into the game with more than a 1-run lead and usually isn't facing the heart of the order, with nobody on base.

Marmol, <i>in his current role, </i>is worth around $10M. Wood, in his current role, isn't. Lou would be smart to keep Marmol right where he is and give either Gregg or Shark a shot to pitch the 9th.

And if the Mets were smart, they'd use K-Rod in the same role Marmol is in. Marmol is infinitely more valuable *not* as the 9th inning guy.
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Butch, I don't even have to tell you that I agree 1000%. Marmol is a stud, and can pitch the 2 inning thing.
But the only reason he was allowed to thrive in that role was because we had a shut-down closer.
Gregg ain't that guy.
There's nothing better than to realize that the good things about youth don't end with youth itself. It's a matter of realizing that life can be renewed every day you get out of bed without baggage. It's tough to get there, but it's better than the dark thoughts. -Lance
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#35
<!--quoteo(post=4618:date=Dec 14 2008, 12:22 AM:name=KBwsb)-->QUOTE (KBwsb @ Dec 14 2008, 12:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=4569:date=Dec 13 2008, 06:10 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Dec 13 2008, 06:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=4558:date=Dec 13 2008, 04:54 PM:name=KBwsb)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KBwsb @ Dec 13 2008, 04:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->That's a pretty solid point, Butch, but the truth is that I believe there does exist something that we could call "high-leverage" innings.

Also, there is some pretty compelling evidence that the main things that help a team win during the 162-games schedule, are similar, <i>but a little different</i> from those required to thrive in a short playoff series against an elite team. And the biggest difference seems to be the near-requirement of an superior closer.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Of course there are high-leverage innings. Know who got most of those innings last year? It wasn't Wood, it was Marmol.

More often than not, your closer is coming into the game with more than a 1-run lead and usually isn't facing the heart of the order, with nobody on base.

Marmol, <i>in his current role, </i>is worth around $10M. Wood, in his current role, isn't. Lou would be smart to keep Marmol right where he is and give either Gregg or Shark a shot to pitch the 9th.

And if the Mets were smart, they'd use K-Rod in the same role Marmol is in. Marmol is infinitely more valuable *not* as the 9th inning guy.
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Butch, I don't even have to tell you that I agree 1000%. Marmol is a stud, and can pitch the 2 inning thing.
But the only reason he was allowed to thrive in that role was because we had a shut-down closer.
Gregg ain't that guy.
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So, you still stand by the idea that, given our budget constraints, we should've paid Wood $10.25M a year over two years?
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#36
If Wood is a shut down closer, then so is Gregg. They're basically on par with each other. Wood has higher K totals and lower walk totals, while Gregg gives up fewer hits and extra base hits. They blew basically the same percentage of save opps and had very close ERA+ and WHIP.


Oh and Gregg is about $5M cheaper.
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#37
Wood going to another team makes me jelous, kinda weird I know, that's just what I feel.

And just for the record, I'm not doubting about my sexual preferences...
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#38
<!--quoteo(post=4943:date=Dec 15 2008, 08:04 PM:name=AlexV)-->QUOTE (AlexV @ Dec 15 2008, 08:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->And just for the record, I'm not doubting about my sexual preferences...<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Thanks for clearing that up for me. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blowjob.gif[/img]
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