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<!--quoteo(post=46788:date=Jun 27 2009, 10:43 PM:name=ruby23)-->QUOTE (ruby23 @ Jun 27 2009, 10:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=46786:date=Jun 27 2009, 10:40 PM:name=Croz)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Croz @ Jun 27 2009, 10:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=46784:date=Jun 27 2009, 10:35 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Jun 27 2009, 10:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=46783:date=Jun 27 2009, 10:33 PM:name=Gracie)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Gracie @ Jun 27 2009, 10:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=46781:date=Jun 27 2009, 10:29 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Jun 27 2009, 10:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->For the record, I like DeRosa too and I'd rather he didn't go to the Cardinals. I'm just not gonna lose any sleep over it or over exaggerate the effect he's gonna have on the Cardinals or the Cubs.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The Cards are also going after Matt Holliday or Jermaine Dye. If they get one of those guys to go along with DeRosa, it will put them over the top. DeRosa will help more than you think.
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Actually, I think this move greatly diminishes their interest in those guys.
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How can they afford either of those two?
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I don't think they can, I think getting DeRosa is their move from the offensive side.
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I think Holliday is out of the question, but I could definitely see KW pretty much handing over Dye to the Cards just so they'd have a better shot to take the Cubs down.
The thing you need to remember is that all Cardinals fans and all White Sox fans are very bad people. It's a fact that has been scientifically proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. Being a Cubs fan is the only path to rightousness and piousness. Cardinal and White Sox fans exist to be the dark, diabolical forces that oppose us. They are the yin to our yang, the Joker to our Batman, the demon to our angel, the insurgence to our freedom, the oil to our water, the club to our baby seal. Their happiness occurs only in direct conflict with everything that is pure and good in this world.
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<!--quoteo(post=46801:date=Jun 28 2009, 03:08 AM:name=Ronsantorocks)-->QUOTE (Ronsantorocks @ Jun 28 2009, 03:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->It wont happen, but a thought crosses my mind. I'd like to see DeRo play a few games in St Louis.. and then come out to say... "This place fuckin' sucks..." If only but hes too professional and I hate to say it but will probably perform pretty well for them<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You're in like 4th grade, right?
This is not some silly theory that's unsupported and deserves being mocked by photos of Xena. ![[Image: ITgoyeg.png]](http://i.imgur.com/ITgoyeg.png)
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<!--quoteo(post=46803:date=Jun 28 2009, 03:10 AM:name=Giff)-->QUOTE (Giff @ Jun 28 2009, 03:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=46788:date=Jun 27 2009, 10:43 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Jun 27 2009, 10:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=46786:date=Jun 27 2009, 10:40 PM:name=Croz)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Croz @ Jun 27 2009, 10:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=46784:date=Jun 27 2009, 10:35 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Jun 27 2009, 10:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=46783:date=Jun 27 2009, 10:33 PM:name=Gracie)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Gracie @ Jun 27 2009, 10:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=46781:date=Jun 27 2009, 10:29 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Jun 27 2009, 10:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->For the record, I like DeRosa too and I'd rather he didn't go to the Cardinals. I'm just not gonna lose any sleep over it or over exaggerate the effect he's gonna have on the Cardinals or the Cubs.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The Cards are also going after Matt Holliday or Jermaine Dye. If they get one of those guys to go along with DeRosa, it will put them over the top. DeRosa will help more than you think.
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Actually, I think this move greatly diminishes their interest in those guys.
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How can they afford either of those two?
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I don't think they can, I think getting DeRosa is their move from the offensive side.
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I think Holliday is out of the question, but I could definitely see KW pretty much handing over Dye to the Cards just so they'd have a better shot to take the Cubs down.
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That's not reality either. As much as KW appears to hate the Cubs, he's not doing that either. It'd have to be a package that blows him away too, Dye's gonna be a type A FA.
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No GM is giving anyone away in this market, unless his name is Jim Hendry.
But seriously, this does suck a fat one, but I'm already kind of over it. I expected one of our division rivals to acquire DeRo, so this is no surprise.
I just hope this blows up in the Cards' faces in some way.
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And I would take Sanchez, Wigginton, Teahen or Perez in that order in a heartbeat. We need something to jolt this team out of complacency.
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<!--quoteo(post=46808:date=Jun 28 2009, 10:41 AM:name=ruby23)-->QUOTE (ruby23 @ Jun 28 2009, 10:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=46803:date=Jun 28 2009, 03:10 AM:name=Giff)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Giff @ Jun 28 2009, 03:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=46788:date=Jun 27 2009, 10:43 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Jun 27 2009, 10:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=46786:date=Jun 27 2009, 10:40 PM:name=Croz)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Croz @ Jun 27 2009, 10:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=46784:date=Jun 27 2009, 10:35 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Jun 27 2009, 10:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=46783:date=Jun 27 2009, 10:33 PM:name=Gracie)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Gracie @ Jun 27 2009, 10:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=46781:date=Jun 27 2009, 10:29 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Jun 27 2009, 10:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->For the record, I like DeRosa too and I'd rather he didn't go to the Cardinals. I'm just not gonna lose any sleep over it or over exaggerate the effect he's gonna have on the Cardinals or the Cubs.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The Cards are also going after Matt Holliday or Jermaine Dye. If they get one of those guys to go along with DeRosa, it will put them over the top. DeRosa will help more than you think.
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Actually, I think this move greatly diminishes their interest in those guys.
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How can they afford either of those two?
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I don't think they can, I think getting DeRosa is their move from the offensive side.
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I think Holliday is out of the question, but I could definitely see KW pretty much handing over Dye to the Cards just so they'd have a better shot to take the Cubs down.
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That's not reality either. As much as KW appears to hate the Cubs, he's not doing that either. It'd have to be a package that blows him away too, Dye's gonna be a type A FA.
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Something to keep in mind, rubes: I think things are changing with regards to free agents. Teams are going to be much less likely to offer arbitration - especially to aging guys - for fear that they'll accept and get way more money than they would on the market. And guys are going to be much more likely to accept for the same reason.
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<!--quoteo(post=46810:date=Jun 28 2009, 11:22 AM:name=rok)-->QUOTE (rok @ Jun 28 2009, 11:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->And I would take Sanchez, Wigginton, Teahen or Perez in that order in a heartbeat. We need something to jolt this team out of complacency.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Neifi or Odalis?
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<!--quoteo(post=46813:date=Jun 28 2009, 10:46 AM:name=Coldneck)-->QUOTE (Coldneck @ Jun 28 2009, 10:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=46810:date=Jun 28 2009, 11:22 AM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Jun 28 2009, 11:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->And I would take Sanchez, Wigginton, Teahen or Perez in that order in a heartbeat. We need something to jolt this team out of complacency.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Neifi or Odalis?
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Ooops, meant Lopez, Felipe.
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<!--quoteo(post=46812:date=Jun 28 2009, 10:36 AM:name=Ace)-->QUOTE (Ace @ Jun 28 2009, 10:36 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=46808:date=Jun 28 2009, 10:41 AM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Jun 28 2009, 10:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=46803:date=Jun 28 2009, 03:10 AM:name=Giff)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Giff @ Jun 28 2009, 03:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=46788:date=Jun 27 2009, 10:43 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Jun 27 2009, 10:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=46786:date=Jun 27 2009, 10:40 PM:name=Croz)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Croz @ Jun 27 2009, 10:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=46784:date=Jun 27 2009, 10:35 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Jun 27 2009, 10:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=46783:date=Jun 27 2009, 10:33 PM:name=Gracie)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Gracie @ Jun 27 2009, 10:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=46781:date=Jun 27 2009, 10:29 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Jun 27 2009, 10:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->For the record, I like DeRosa too and I'd rather he didn't go to the Cardinals. I'm just not gonna lose any sleep over it or over exaggerate the effect he's gonna have on the Cardinals or the Cubs.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The Cards are also going after Matt Holliday or Jermaine Dye. If they get one of those guys to go along with DeRosa, it will put them over the top. DeRosa will help more than you think.
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Actually, I think this move greatly diminishes their interest in those guys.
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How can they afford either of those two?
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I don't think they can, I think getting DeRosa is their move from the offensive side.
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I think Holliday is out of the question, but I could definitely see KW pretty much handing over Dye to the Cards just so they'd have a better shot to take the Cubs down.
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That's not reality either. As much as KW appears to hate the Cubs, he's not doing that either. It'd have to be a package that blows him away too, Dye's gonna be a type A FA.
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Something to keep in mind, rubes: I think things are changing with regards to free agents. Teams are going to be much less likely to offer arbitration - especially to aging guys - for fear that they'll accept and get way more money than they would on the market. And guys are going to be much more likely to accept for the same reason.
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That's a great point too.
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If somebody would have told me back around Christmas that we'd give away DeRosa for a few weak minor-leaguers, and then a few months later, he'd be plugging a massive hole playing for the 1st place Cardinals, I would have punched somebody.
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<!--quoteo(post=46824:date=Jun 28 2009, 12:24 PM:name=KBwsb)-->QUOTE (KBwsb @ Jun 28 2009, 12:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->If somebody would have told me back around Christmas that we'd give away DeRosa for a few weak minor-leaguers, and then a few months later, he'd be plugging a massive hole playing for the 1st place Cardinals, I would have punched somebody.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I don't know about the others, but Jeff Stevens has done rather well so far in Iowa. He had a rough patch recently, but overall he's been playing quite well. He could be a solid reliever/closer down the line.
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<!--quoteo(post=46825:date=Jun 28 2009, 01:37 PM:name=Gracie)-->QUOTE (Gracie @ Jun 28 2009, 01:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=46824:date=Jun 28 2009, 12:24 PM:name=KBwsb)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KBwsb @ Jun 28 2009, 12:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->If somebody would have told me back around Christmas that we'd give away DeRosa for a few weak minor-leaguers, and then a few months later, he'd be plugging a massive hole playing for the 1st place Cardinals, I would have punched somebody.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I don't know about the others, but Jeff Stevens has done rather well so far in Iowa. He had a rough patch recently, but overall he's been playing quite well. He could be a solid reliever/closer down the line.
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Gaub and Archer may even be better.
It was a good return for DeRosa... IF DeRosa HAD to be dealt. And therein lies the problem.
He didn't.
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BTW, DeRosa's playing LF today.
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"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that." - George Carlin
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Meh, he was 0-3 at the plate and they lost.
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