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See? Rok gets it.
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Now I'm excited to get him. This should be fun.
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I hope it's more fun than Neil Cocks.
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So you'd really just rather not take him? He was AWFUL last year, 1 season. He's pitched just 9 games this year out of the pen, and is dominating in AAA back as a starter. I don't understand how people wouldn't love this gamble. I'd much rather take a chance on a left-handed pitcher that just turned 27 and was one of the best starters in the league just 2 seasons ago.
I don't care if they hate my entire family and call me a flaming douchebag all day, if they can help the Cubs win ballgames, I want them on the fucking team.
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Fuck Gorzelanny.
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3B Josh Harrison is the other minor leaguer.
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See? Rok gets it.
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Now I'm excited to get him. This should be fun.
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I hope it's more fun than Neil Cocks.
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If he didn't stink so badly, I might make an exception, but I can't overlook his past.
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So do you think we will use Gorzelanny as a starter, now that Hart is gone, or as a reliever and let Marshall start ?
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Nevermind. Didn't read through the whole thread. I don't see how anybody could not like this deal for the crap we gave up.
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<!--quoteo(post=53989:date=Jul 30 2009, 04:52 PM:name=alpha)-->QUOTE (alpha @ Jul 30 2009, 04:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->So do you think we will use Gorzelanny as a starter, now that Hart is gone, or as a reliever and let Marshall start ?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'd have to guess Gorzelanny, just because he's stretched out and Marshall isn't.
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Trading for middle relief is always questionable.
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See? Rok gets it.
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I hope it's more fun than Neil Cocks.
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But he's been pitching as a 26-year-old or younger in the majors with one awesome full season under his belt already. And he's kicking ass in the minors, more than Hart or Ascanio have. He's just 5 months older than Hart even.
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Kevin Goldstein: This is the first of the Pirates trades that I do NOT like for them.
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I almost forgot how ugly he is. I don't think this is a bad deal. Hart and Ascanio are both big "mehs" to me.
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The more I think about it, the more I like it. Unless Kevin Hart really improves his control, he's not going to be more than a fill-in starter, blah reliever. He's got some heat and has decent stuff, but he misses the catcher's target about every pitch.
Ascanio's got some filthy stuff and can be a good setup man, maybe starter. Where does he really fit in for us though? Gregg, Marmol, Guzman, Stevens has looked damn impressive, Shark can be very good there, then guys like Cashner in the minors. He deserves a chance with somebody and I think will be a productive major leaguer, but he'd have a hard time really finding a role with us anyway. He's pitching well as a starter, maybe he keeps that up but I don't see him being as effective in that role.
And Josh Harrison... everything I've read makes it seems like he's a solid little player, but he's a 3rd baseman. We have Aramis, Vitters, and can even throw Fox into the mix. We're a big market team and it's a corner position, I doubt this dude was ever a potential starter for us there.
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fuck. we traded for Mikey.
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Now that's just mean.
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