05-14-2010, 09:10 PM
<!--quoteo(post=96088:date=May 12 2010, 07:35 PM:name=Ace)-->QUOTE (Ace @ May 12 2010, 07:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->So, I read somewhere that Castro will not be a Super Two player (i.e., he won't have enough service time this year for it to count as his first service year because he won't be in the top 17% of playing time for guys with 2 full years of service time), but how are people coming to that conclusion?
Fontenot was the last Super Two player this year, and before his first two full years he had just 93 games of experience. Castro's gonna have way more than that, assuming he stays on the ML roster in 2011 and 2012.
Are the people who say he won't be a Super Two just wrong? Or am I missing something?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Doesn't really matter how many games he played, it matters how long he was on the roster. Fontenot had 2 years 139 days, which was the exact cutoff.
If Castro stays up all year he will have just about exactly 2 years 138 or 139 days (not exactly sure how all-star breaks figure into the days) so he will be very close. In the past 5 years no one with less than 2 years 130 days has been super two, so had we waited 2 more weeks he would have pretty much been assured of not being one. Now it will be very close. I have also read there are a lot of good rookies that started the season up this year that have a good chance of staying up so it might be a good year for Starlin as the Super 2 cutoff may be unusually high for his year.
In general I agree with Coach though, if he helps bring him, The Cubs shouldn't be worried about Super 2. If he goes down to the minors for any reason for any period of time over the next 3 seasons we won't have to worry about it anyway and if he doesn't, then that probably means he has been raking and we won't mind paying him 3 mil or whatever a year early.
Fontenot was the last Super Two player this year, and before his first two full years he had just 93 games of experience. Castro's gonna have way more than that, assuming he stays on the ML roster in 2011 and 2012.
Are the people who say he won't be a Super Two just wrong? Or am I missing something?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Doesn't really matter how many games he played, it matters how long he was on the roster. Fontenot had 2 years 139 days, which was the exact cutoff.
If Castro stays up all year he will have just about exactly 2 years 138 or 139 days (not exactly sure how all-star breaks figure into the days) so he will be very close. In the past 5 years no one with less than 2 years 130 days has been super two, so had we waited 2 more weeks he would have pretty much been assured of not being one. Now it will be very close. I have also read there are a lot of good rookies that started the season up this year that have a good chance of staying up so it might be a good year for Starlin as the Super 2 cutoff may be unusually high for his year.
In general I agree with Coach though, if he helps bring him, The Cubs shouldn't be worried about Super 2. If he goes down to the minors for any reason for any period of time over the next 3 seasons we won't have to worry about it anyway and if he doesn't, then that probably means he has been raking and we won't mind paying him 3 mil or whatever a year early.