04-28-2010, 12:01 PM
<!--quoteo(post=93221:date=Apr 28 2010, 10:17 AM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ Apr 28 2010, 10:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=93217:date=Apr 28 2010, 10:09 AM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Apr 28 2010, 10:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=93214:date=Apr 28 2010, 10:00 AM:name=BT)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BT @ Apr 28 2010, 10:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=93212:date=Apr 28 2010, 09:32 AM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Apr 28 2010, 09:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=93208:date=Apr 28 2010, 08:32 AM:name=BT)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BT @ Apr 28 2010, 08:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=93204:date=Apr 28 2010, 08:20 AM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Apr 28 2010, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=93203:date=Apr 28 2010, 08:17 AM:name=BT)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BT @ Apr 28 2010, 08:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=93092:date=Apr 27 2010, 03:51 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Apr 27 2010, 03:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Fucking PIVEN, too?
What in holy hell is going on?
Piven and Cusack grew up in Evanston -- the same town I grew up in. Nobody fucking roots for the White Sox in Evanston. They're full of shit. They're doing this shit because they feel like they have to because of their celebrity. But it doesn't give them a pass. Fuck all of them.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I don't know how else to explain this to you. Cubs fans who don't live in Chicago don't hate the Sox the way we do. They are not exposed to the constant douchebaggery.
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Evanston is Chicago.
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John Cusack doesn't live in Evanston.
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He grew up in Evanston. If he doesn't know better, he's an idiot.
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I'm roughly Cusack's age. I grew up in Homewood. When I was 10, my second favorite team in baseball was the White Sox. When I was in high school, in 1983, I watched Julio Cruz score the winning run that clinched the division. I rooted for Bannister, Dotson, Hoyt, and Burns because I thought their second half run was amazing. When they lost in the playoffs, I was not upset, but that was ONLY because I was jealous of them, and didn't want the Sox to win before the Cubs did.
When I went to college, I went to U of I, where everyone was a Cubs fan or a Cards fan. I realized at that point, that I hated the Cardinals more than any other team in existence. I didn't hate them before I hung out with their fans though.
It wasn't until after college, when I moved back to Chicago, when I started listening to sports talk radio, when I started listening to Hawk Harrelson, when I started dealing with Sox fans on a regular basis, when the internet made listening to their idiocy much easier, that I began to hate them with the white hot fury I hate them with now.
Cusack, Piven, et al, never have gone through that last phase. Had I moved to California after college, I'd still hate the Sox, but nothing like the way I hate them now.
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When I went to Jeremy's dad's workshops I think Jeremy was still in high school...and I'd see Cusack the around once in a while...this was in the mid-'80s when Cusack was still scuffling and I lived in Evanston. Maybe they didn't live through 2005 in Chicago but then neither did I. Neither of them have cut themselves off from Chicago. They go back much more often than I do and go to many more Cubs games than I do. They have no excuses. They can't not know. I'm sorry...they can do as they please but there's no scenario where the douchbaggery is rinsed away.
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Where in Evanston did you used to live? Did you go to school there?
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No. My brother did though (high school). My mom moved there from the city after I moved away. When I got sick in '84, I came back and lived with her. Fuck if I can remember the address it was a block from the lake and a couple blocks east of the Domino super market...and my brother and I bought that condo so she could stop paying rent. After I recovered I rented a Robinson apartment at 828 Reba Place.
What in holy hell is going on?
Piven and Cusack grew up in Evanston -- the same town I grew up in. Nobody fucking roots for the White Sox in Evanston. They're full of shit. They're doing this shit because they feel like they have to because of their celebrity. But it doesn't give them a pass. Fuck all of them.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I don't know how else to explain this to you. Cubs fans who don't live in Chicago don't hate the Sox the way we do. They are not exposed to the constant douchebaggery.
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Evanston is Chicago.
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John Cusack doesn't live in Evanston.
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He grew up in Evanston. If he doesn't know better, he's an idiot.
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I'm roughly Cusack's age. I grew up in Homewood. When I was 10, my second favorite team in baseball was the White Sox. When I was in high school, in 1983, I watched Julio Cruz score the winning run that clinched the division. I rooted for Bannister, Dotson, Hoyt, and Burns because I thought their second half run was amazing. When they lost in the playoffs, I was not upset, but that was ONLY because I was jealous of them, and didn't want the Sox to win before the Cubs did.
When I went to college, I went to U of I, where everyone was a Cubs fan or a Cards fan. I realized at that point, that I hated the Cardinals more than any other team in existence. I didn't hate them before I hung out with their fans though.
It wasn't until after college, when I moved back to Chicago, when I started listening to sports talk radio, when I started listening to Hawk Harrelson, when I started dealing with Sox fans on a regular basis, when the internet made listening to their idiocy much easier, that I began to hate them with the white hot fury I hate them with now.
Cusack, Piven, et al, never have gone through that last phase. Had I moved to California after college, I'd still hate the Sox, but nothing like the way I hate them now.
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When I went to Jeremy's dad's workshops I think Jeremy was still in high school...and I'd see Cusack the around once in a while...this was in the mid-'80s when Cusack was still scuffling and I lived in Evanston. Maybe they didn't live through 2005 in Chicago but then neither did I. Neither of them have cut themselves off from Chicago. They go back much more often than I do and go to many more Cubs games than I do. They have no excuses. They can't not know. I'm sorry...they can do as they please but there's no scenario where the douchbaggery is rinsed away.
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Where in Evanston did you used to live? Did you go to school there?
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No. My brother did though (high school). My mom moved there from the city after I moved away. When I got sick in '84, I came back and lived with her. Fuck if I can remember the address it was a block from the lake and a couple blocks east of the Domino super market...and my brother and I bought that condo so she could stop paying rent. After I recovered I rented a Robinson apartment at 828 Reba Place.