04-22-2010, 01:58 PM
<!--quoteo(post=92103:date=Apr 22 2010, 12:55 PM:name=jeffy)-->QUOTE (jeffy @ Apr 22 2010, 12:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=92097:date=Apr 22 2010, 12:47 PM:name=Scarey)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Scarey @ Apr 22 2010, 12:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=92091:date=Apr 22 2010, 12:43 PM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Apr 22 2010, 12:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=92086:date=Apr 22 2010, 12:38 PM:name=Scarey)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Scarey @ Apr 22 2010, 12:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I never said that.
I'm confident that Z would pitch like he has the last 3 starts and the 1st start was an aberation. That has nothing to do with what Sipes said.
He said replacing Z's production with Lilly's is at worst an even trade off, at best an improvement. Silva and Gorzelanny's production have not been a detriment so far and will hopefully stay the same. <b>Meanwhile, Z will pitch out of the bullpen and should improve the relief corp.</b> So all around, the Cubs just got better. This all falls through if one of Gorzelanny or Silva start sucking though. Sipes just offered up an optimistic way of looking at it.
It's not the best percentage move, but I think Lou is going to try to ride out Gorzelanny and Silva's hot starts as long as he can. I don't agree with it, but I'm not going to jump out my office window because the 2010 sesason is ruined. At worst, one of those guys starts sucking and Zambrano will be reinserted into the rotation. I guess Lou could give them each 5 starts or shitastic pitching before yanking them, but I don't think that will be the case personally.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm worried he will absolutely suck out of the pen.
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That's always a possibility, but I don't understand why he would pitch well in the rotation and badly as a reliever.
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Well, many pitchers can adjust to it without any issues, but others can't because they're used to their starting routine. Then you have to consider Z's a headcase too, and it takes a different mentality to come into a game out of the pen. I also wonder if this is affect his cramping problems at all since he's coming off of his normal routine.
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Maybe I'm being biased, but all of these seem like grasping at straws. I agree that some or all of these issues could come in to play, but isn't it likely that a good pitcher is going to be a good pitcher? And let's be honest, 90% of relief pitchers are relief pitchers because they weren't good enough to be starters. There's no special mentality that scouts look for and say "that guy has a great relief pitcher mentality".
I'm confident that Z would pitch like he has the last 3 starts and the 1st start was an aberation. That has nothing to do with what Sipes said.
He said replacing Z's production with Lilly's is at worst an even trade off, at best an improvement. Silva and Gorzelanny's production have not been a detriment so far and will hopefully stay the same. <b>Meanwhile, Z will pitch out of the bullpen and should improve the relief corp.</b> So all around, the Cubs just got better. This all falls through if one of Gorzelanny or Silva start sucking though. Sipes just offered up an optimistic way of looking at it.
It's not the best percentage move, but I think Lou is going to try to ride out Gorzelanny and Silva's hot starts as long as he can. I don't agree with it, but I'm not going to jump out my office window because the 2010 sesason is ruined. At worst, one of those guys starts sucking and Zambrano will be reinserted into the rotation. I guess Lou could give them each 5 starts or shitastic pitching before yanking them, but I don't think that will be the case personally.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm worried he will absolutely suck out of the pen.
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That's always a possibility, but I don't understand why he would pitch well in the rotation and badly as a reliever.
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Well, many pitchers can adjust to it without any issues, but others can't because they're used to their starting routine. Then you have to consider Z's a headcase too, and it takes a different mentality to come into a game out of the pen. I also wonder if this is affect his cramping problems at all since he's coming off of his normal routine.
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Maybe I'm being biased, but all of these seem like grasping at straws. I agree that some or all of these issues could come in to play, but isn't it likely that a good pitcher is going to be a good pitcher? And let's be honest, 90% of relief pitchers are relief pitchers because they weren't good enough to be starters. There's no special mentality that scouts look for and say "that guy has a great relief pitcher mentality".