04-22-2010, 01:38 PM
<!--quoteo(post=92073:date=Apr 22 2010, 12:09 PM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ Apr 22 2010, 12:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=92072:date=Apr 22 2010, 12:05 PM:name=Scarey)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Scarey @ Apr 22 2010, 12:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=92070:date=Apr 22 2010, 12:02 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Apr 22 2010, 12:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=92068:date=Apr 22 2010, 12:00 PM:name=leonardsipes)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (leonardsipes @ Apr 22 2010, 12:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->The rotation is not being downgraded.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes it is. The rotation is being downgraded by keeping Silva and Gorz in it and removing Zambrano.
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I think Lenny meant it in so far THIS year, the rotation has pitched just fine and in terms of THIS year, the rotation is now being downgraded. He's right actually.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Right. So, despite years of evidence to the contrary, Silva and Gorz will continue to pitch like Walter Johnson and Z will continue to pitch like Jason Marquis. I get it now.
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I never said that.
I'm confident that Z would pitch like he has the last 3 starts and the 1st start was an aberation. That has nothing to do with what Sipes said.
He said replacing Z's production with Lilly's is at worst an even trade off, at best an improvement. Silva and Gorzelanny's production have not been a detriment so far and will hopefully stay the same. Meanwhile, Z will pitch out of the bullpen and should improve the relief corp. So all around, the Cubs just got better. This all falls through if one of Gorzelanny or Silva start sucking though. Sipes just offered up an optimistic way of looking at it.
It's not the best percentage move, but I think Lou is going to try to ride out Gorzelanny and Silva's hot starts as long as he can. I don't agree with it, but I'm not going to jump out my office window because the 2010 sesason is ruined. At worst, one of those guys starts sucking and Zambrano will be reinserted into the rotation. I guess Lou could give them each 5 starts or shitastic pitching before yanking them, but I don't think that will be the case personally.
Yes it is. The rotation is being downgraded by keeping Silva and Gorz in it and removing Zambrano.
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I think Lenny meant it in so far THIS year, the rotation has pitched just fine and in terms of THIS year, the rotation is now being downgraded. He's right actually.<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Right. So, despite years of evidence to the contrary, Silva and Gorz will continue to pitch like Walter Johnson and Z will continue to pitch like Jason Marquis. I get it now.
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I never said that.
I'm confident that Z would pitch like he has the last 3 starts and the 1st start was an aberation. That has nothing to do with what Sipes said.
He said replacing Z's production with Lilly's is at worst an even trade off, at best an improvement. Silva and Gorzelanny's production have not been a detriment so far and will hopefully stay the same. Meanwhile, Z will pitch out of the bullpen and should improve the relief corp. So all around, the Cubs just got better. This all falls through if one of Gorzelanny or Silva start sucking though. Sipes just offered up an optimistic way of looking at it.
It's not the best percentage move, but I think Lou is going to try to ride out Gorzelanny and Silva's hot starts as long as he can. I don't agree with it, but I'm not going to jump out my office window because the 2010 sesason is ruined. At worst, one of those guys starts sucking and Zambrano will be reinserted into the rotation. I guess Lou could give them each 5 starts or shitastic pitching before yanking them, but I don't think that will be the case personally.