04-06-2010, 05:13 PM
<!--quoteo(post=86544:date=Apr 6 2010, 02:29 PM:name=VanSlawAndCottoCheese)-->QUOTE (VanSlawAndCottoCheese @ Apr 6 2010, 02:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=81962:date=Mar 8 2010, 01:04 PM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Mar 8 2010, 01:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=81958:date=Mar 8 2010, 11:41 AM:name=Qalex1)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Qalex1 @ Mar 8 2010, 11:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->FYI about not ending a sentence with a preposition, Winston Churchill once said "This is the sort of bloody nonsense up with which I will not put." It's not actually a rule. Sorry Ace.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->"Rules" are only as applicable as the governing body that espouses them. When it comes to grammar and style, there are no "rules," because there are a number of bodies. But for every one that you could find that would not designate the no-preposition-to-end-a-sentence thing as a "rule," I imagine I could find one that would.
That all said, the prevailing view is that you only honor that "rule" where it wouldn't make the meaning of the sentence more confusing. So I agree.
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Ah, the "don't end a sentence with a preposition" rule: one of the biggest scams perpetrated on English grammar by a few tweedy Latin lovers (perhaps originally just one grammarian at first). Latin has case endings on nouns that signal that the nouns are objects of nearby prepositions. English does not. <b>The whole "rule" forbidding prepositions and their objects from straying can probably be traced to some curmudgeonly transcriber with his knickers in a wad, probably a Cardinals fan centuries before his time.</b>
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Slaw, you are truly a great addition to the site.
That was a classic post, from beginning to end.
That all said, the prevailing view is that you only honor that "rule" where it wouldn't make the meaning of the sentence more confusing. So I agree.
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Ah, the "don't end a sentence with a preposition" rule: one of the biggest scams perpetrated on English grammar by a few tweedy Latin lovers (perhaps originally just one grammarian at first). Latin has case endings on nouns that signal that the nouns are objects of nearby prepositions. English does not. <b>The whole "rule" forbidding prepositions and their objects from straying can probably be traced to some curmudgeonly transcriber with his knickers in a wad, probably a Cardinals fan centuries before his time.</b>
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Slaw, you are truly a great addition to the site.
That was a classic post, from beginning to end.
There's nothing better than to realize that the good things about youth don't end with youth itself. It's a matter of realizing that life can be renewed every day you get out of bed without baggage. It's tough to get there, but it's better than the dark thoughts. -Lance