01-26-2010, 12:32 PM
<!--quoteo(post=77345:date=Jan 26 2010, 10:02 AM:name=Bricklayer)-->QUOTE (Bricklayer @ Jan 26 2010, 10:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=77340:date=Jan 26 2010, 09:05 AM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Jan 26 2010, 09:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=77339:date=Jan 26 2010, 08:56 AM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Jan 26 2010, 08:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=77338:date=Jan 26 2010, 08:43 AM:name=ChiefKodiak)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ChiefKodiak @ Jan 26 2010, 08:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Then again, all of the cocaine guys from the 80s should be too.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Um, no.
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Really.
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Yes, really.
If that's the case then all the amphetamine users need to be banned too. So what then, the last 40 years of baseball should just be wiped off the record books because all these "illegal" drug users who ruined the game? Gimme a fucking break.
Should you be banned from your job because of drug use? I'm not talking about being convicted of a crime, but using an illegal drug and not being caught.
Apply the same fucked up standards that's being thrown about against these players to your own life and see what you think is fair.
Everyone has got to get off their high horse on this one. There is not a single profession, industry, or what have you that isn't beset by unethical behavior that I'm sure has a lot more severe consequences on the daily lives of others as opposed to a bunch of meatheads playing a game.
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There was no question mark on my "Really." I was agreeing with Rok. There is no comparison between recreational drugs and performance enhancing drugs. And to the extent that stimulants are either or both, there's still little comparison between their use and the use of steroids and HGH and such. Stimulants may provide a short-term gain but the comeuppance is right around the corner. Take speed for two weeks straight and go to the batting cage every day and you'll see what I mean.
But lets confine this to jocks that played around like the rich, party animals they were. Doing rails off strippers' asses all night is hardly performance enhancing.
This should have little or nothing to do with being good citizens or role models or whatever and everything to do with cheating at baseball.
Um, no.
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Really.
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Yes, really.
If that's the case then all the amphetamine users need to be banned too. So what then, the last 40 years of baseball should just be wiped off the record books because all these "illegal" drug users who ruined the game? Gimme a fucking break.
Should you be banned from your job because of drug use? I'm not talking about being convicted of a crime, but using an illegal drug and not being caught.
Apply the same fucked up standards that's being thrown about against these players to your own life and see what you think is fair.
Everyone has got to get off their high horse on this one. There is not a single profession, industry, or what have you that isn't beset by unethical behavior that I'm sure has a lot more severe consequences on the daily lives of others as opposed to a bunch of meatheads playing a game.
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There was no question mark on my "Really." I was agreeing with Rok. There is no comparison between recreational drugs and performance enhancing drugs. And to the extent that stimulants are either or both, there's still little comparison between their use and the use of steroids and HGH and such. Stimulants may provide a short-term gain but the comeuppance is right around the corner. Take speed for two weeks straight and go to the batting cage every day and you'll see what I mean.
But lets confine this to jocks that played around like the rich, party animals they were. Doing rails off strippers' asses all night is hardly performance enhancing.
This should have little or nothing to do with being good citizens or role models or whatever and everything to do with cheating at baseball.