12-24-2009, 11:29 AM
<!--quoteo(post=72922:date=Dec 24 2009, 11:05 AM:name=Ace)-->QUOTE (Ace @ Dec 24 2009, 11:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=72920:date=Dec 24 2009, 10:02 AM:name=Scarey)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Scarey @ Dec 24 2009, 10:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->You said the team that wins more consistently (Red Sox) has a person making better decisions than the team not winning as consistently (Cubs).
I disagreed or opposed that thought. I said sometimes things just don't work out for you such as Soto/Soriano sucking dick. That has very little to do with the decision making of the GM.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
If you were talking about ONE OR TWO seasons, I would understand. But we're talking about FIVE YEARS. How is this unclear?
Teams that have spent comparably - COMPARABLY - over the past FIVE SEASONS have generally - GENERALLY - won more games than the Cubs.
It can't all be luck. There is a single common factor. And it even holds true when you ACTUALLY REVIEW Hendry's moves over the last five years. It's not just metrics - it's metrics backing up what we've all observed with our eyes.
I'm literally going insane.
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You can't pin it to anyone one single factor Ace. That's the point here. Luck would be one single factor.
In the case of Boston, they've been able to rely on some young guys that have developed from their system (Youkilis, Pedroia, Ellsbury, etc.) Those guys make up a very small amount of their total payroll thus giving them a chance to spend in a risky way in other places.
This is one of the many factors that the Red Sox have been able to consistently win mor than the Cubs IMO.
Now, you can point to those young guys and tell me that Hendry could have made the decision to draft and develop some of those guys. That Epstein is the superior GM because he noticed them and had the superior decision making ability, so he took them. But personally, I think drafting and developing good prospects <i>is</i> partly luck. It's also part talent evaluation too, and if your argument was that a guy like Epstein is a superior GM mostly because of his prospect evaluation I would have trouble opposing your position. But, that's not your argument (I don't believe so at least).
I disagreed or opposed that thought. I said sometimes things just don't work out for you such as Soto/Soriano sucking dick. That has very little to do with the decision making of the GM.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
If you were talking about ONE OR TWO seasons, I would understand. But we're talking about FIVE YEARS. How is this unclear?
Teams that have spent comparably - COMPARABLY - over the past FIVE SEASONS have generally - GENERALLY - won more games than the Cubs.
It can't all be luck. There is a single common factor. And it even holds true when you ACTUALLY REVIEW Hendry's moves over the last five years. It's not just metrics - it's metrics backing up what we've all observed with our eyes.
I'm literally going insane.
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You can't pin it to anyone one single factor Ace. That's the point here. Luck would be one single factor.
In the case of Boston, they've been able to rely on some young guys that have developed from their system (Youkilis, Pedroia, Ellsbury, etc.) Those guys make up a very small amount of their total payroll thus giving them a chance to spend in a risky way in other places.
This is one of the many factors that the Red Sox have been able to consistently win mor than the Cubs IMO.
Now, you can point to those young guys and tell me that Hendry could have made the decision to draft and develop some of those guys. That Epstein is the superior GM because he noticed them and had the superior decision making ability, so he took them. But personally, I think drafting and developing good prospects <i>is</i> partly luck. It's also part talent evaluation too, and if your argument was that a guy like Epstein is a superior GM mostly because of his prospect evaluation I would have trouble opposing your position. But, that's not your argument (I don't believe so at least).