12-23-2009, 12:29 PM
<!--quoteo(post=72829:date=Dec 23 2009, 02:00 AM:name=KBwsb)-->QUOTE (KBwsb @ Dec 23 2009, 02:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Well, this chart shows that Boston did outspend us, averaging 145 mil to our 115 mil. They also averaged the 2nd most victories in baseball over than period, while we played .500 ball (actually, one game over .500).
Then last year, we outspent them by a good margin and totaled 83 wins. Not one, but TWO games over .500!
The Red Sox won 95.
Are you going to seriously argue that we spend our payroll dollars more intelligently than the Red Sox? Or deny that our payroll has been amongst the top 5 in MLB for most of Hendry's "reign?"
And BTW, fuck the Red Sox. I just wish to have someone in the front office who vaguely understands player value, and things like WAR. Someone who comprehends how absurd it is to throw tons of cash at legions of middle relievers. Is that asking too much?
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According to the chart, the Yankees spent $2.3 MM per win during this period compared to the Cubs $1.4 MM or 66% more per win so should we now infer that the Cubs were a better, more efficient organization than the Yankees. I don't think you would find a baseball person that would make that statement.
The Yankees just spent the cash because they have more cash just as other major market teams do. The Yankees, Mets, Angels, Dodgers, Cubs and White Sox are major market teams. They should be spending more for their team as they should be getting more revenue.
Sorry but who the hell cares about how much a team spends to win? It's about winning and the only people who should be pissed that they team overspends or misspent cash are the teams with more limited or stretched resources. Sorry middle market and small market teams but the deck is stacked against you. The only long term strategy these teams have to compete is to scout, draft and develop talent more effectively.
The Cubs have a poor record regarding scouting, drafting and developing talent until these skills are improved, the organization is going to over and mis-spend their resources. Get used to it. The hopes are that the resources aren't as stretched or limited as other teams and that they can acquire/develop these skills and consistently win.
Then last year, we outspent them by a good margin and totaled 83 wins. Not one, but TWO games over .500!
The Red Sox won 95.
Are you going to seriously argue that we spend our payroll dollars more intelligently than the Red Sox? Or deny that our payroll has been amongst the top 5 in MLB for most of Hendry's "reign?"
And BTW, fuck the Red Sox. I just wish to have someone in the front office who vaguely understands player value, and things like WAR. Someone who comprehends how absurd it is to throw tons of cash at legions of middle relievers. Is that asking too much?
<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->According to the chart, the Yankees spent $2.3 MM per win during this period compared to the Cubs $1.4 MM or 66% more per win so should we now infer that the Cubs were a better, more efficient organization than the Yankees. I don't think you would find a baseball person that would make that statement.
The Yankees just spent the cash because they have more cash just as other major market teams do. The Yankees, Mets, Angels, Dodgers, Cubs and White Sox are major market teams. They should be spending more for their team as they should be getting more revenue.
Sorry but who the hell cares about how much a team spends to win? It's about winning and the only people who should be pissed that they team overspends or misspent cash are the teams with more limited or stretched resources. Sorry middle market and small market teams but the deck is stacked against you. The only long term strategy these teams have to compete is to scout, draft and develop talent more effectively.
The Cubs have a poor record regarding scouting, drafting and developing talent until these skills are improved, the organization is going to over and mis-spend their resources. Get used to it. The hopes are that the resources aren't as stretched or limited as other teams and that they can acquire/develop these skills and consistently win.