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Yankees interested in Zambrano?
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<!--quoteo(post=72829:date=Dec 23 2009, 02:00 AM:name=KBwsb)-->QUOTE (KBwsb @ Dec 23 2009, 02:00 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Well, this chart shows that Boston did outspend us, averaging 145 mil to our 115 mil. They also averaged the 2nd most victories in baseball over than period, while we played .500 ball (actually, one game over .500).
Then last year, we outspent them by a good margin and totaled 83 wins. Not one, but TWO games over .500!
The Red Sox won 95.
Are you going to seriously argue that we spend our payroll dollars more intelligently than the Red Sox? Or deny that our payroll has been amongst the top 5 in MLB for most of Hendry's "reign?"

And BTW, fuck the Red Sox. I just wish to have someone in the front office who vaguely understands player value, and things like WAR. Someone who comprehends how absurd it is to throw tons of cash at legions of middle relievers. Is that asking too much?

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First let me stipulate that Epstien is a much better GM than Hendry. I'm not arguing that. But.

You say you have a problem with Hendry's player valuation.

Let me ask you this. How would you feel if Hendry was paying:

A guy like Ortiz, OPS+ 101, basically league average, 26 million dollars in 2009 and 2010?
Mike Lowell, OPS+106, a bit better than average, 25 Million in 2009 and 2010?
Julio Lugo, OPS+ 86, much worse than average, 18.5 million in 09-10?
DiceK, in addition to paying 50 million to sign him, owe him another 37 million for 2009-2012?

You would rake Hendry over the coals for these kinds of signings. Right? So even the "best" GM, who passes your litmus tests, still fails from time to time.

Hendry should be judged on his entire body of work. That should include the resources he's had to work with. And I'd agree his resume has some glaring holes. But you seem to hold him to standards that you don't hold others to.
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Yankees interested in Zambrano? - by Coldneck - 12-21-2009, 05:04 PM
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