12-14-2009, 11:59 AM
<!--quoteo(post=71587:date=Dec 14 2009, 10:42 AM:name=BT)-->QUOTE (BT @ Dec 14 2009, 10:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=71585:date=Dec 14 2009, 09:07 AM:name=Kid)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid @ Dec 14 2009, 09:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=71584:date=Dec 14 2009, 09:59 AM:name=BT)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BT @ Dec 14 2009, 09:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=71581:date=Dec 14 2009, 08:33 AM:name=Kid)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid @ Dec 14 2009, 08:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I think it's also worth noting that the money in this league is far too small to divide up that way. Our total pot is $250. If you're saying the pot will be split in half first based on regular season & playoffs, and then divided up further from there, you'll have a scenario where the winner of the playoffs will get all of like $60-75 after paying $25 to be in the league.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm not sure I understand why that would be unfair. Are you suggesting the winner of the playoffs should get a lot more money than the points total winner?
If we go under the assumption that in almost all cases, the team with the highest point total is the actual "best" team, and that the playoffs are, at best, random and unfair, why shouldn't the person who puts together the best team be rewarded?
I guess it's a matter of opinion. I think the team with the most points at the end of the year deserves more reward than the team that wins the super bowl, simply because the super bowl tends to be far more arbitrary. PCB had the EIGHTH best team in the league, and has a 50/50 shot to be in the super bowl. It's great that he has that chance, but I don't know that we should be showering him with money because of quirks of scheduling.
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Again, that's completely contrary to the way sports work. The Steelers won the Super Bowl a couple of years ago even though they were the #6 seed in the AFC playoffs, and they beat the #1, 2, & 3 teams in the AFC, & the #1 team in the NFC to do it. Who remembers that the Colts had the best record in the NFL that season? Based on what you were saying, they weren't the best team in the NFL, but who cares? Nobody says "well, the Steelers won the Super Bowl, but that doesn't really matter, the Colts went 14-2!"
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Kid, that analogy simply doesn't work. The Steelers won the super bowl because THEY played well enough to win. PCB beat me yesterday because the Bears defense (who have nothing to do with PCB's team) held Rodgers to zero touchdowns, and because the Raiders (who have nothing to do with my team) couldn't stop Ganther on the goal line twice. The Steelers beating 4 teams means they EARNED the super bowl win.
In real sports teams control what happens to them. In fantasy sports, we are subjects to the whims of scheduling. Put another way, it is completely conceivable (though not likely) that a team that comes in 9th every week in points can win our Super Bowl. Because they don't actually have to "play" anyone, they simply have to have the schedule work out that they are playing the one team each week that is worse than them.
In that respect, fantasy and the NFL are not comparable. No one in the world is dumb enough to think that the NFL team that puts up the most points in a season is entitled to anything. Does that mean point totals in fantasy shouldn't count for anything as well?
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Regular season success should mean something - playoff seeding and probably a first round bye for the top teams. Maybe a nominal amount for the top regular season team (something like 20% to the #1 team only).
I'm not sure I understand why that would be unfair. Are you suggesting the winner of the playoffs should get a lot more money than the points total winner?
If we go under the assumption that in almost all cases, the team with the highest point total is the actual "best" team, and that the playoffs are, at best, random and unfair, why shouldn't the person who puts together the best team be rewarded?
I guess it's a matter of opinion. I think the team with the most points at the end of the year deserves more reward than the team that wins the super bowl, simply because the super bowl tends to be far more arbitrary. PCB had the EIGHTH best team in the league, and has a 50/50 shot to be in the super bowl. It's great that he has that chance, but I don't know that we should be showering him with money because of quirks of scheduling.
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Again, that's completely contrary to the way sports work. The Steelers won the Super Bowl a couple of years ago even though they were the #6 seed in the AFC playoffs, and they beat the #1, 2, & 3 teams in the AFC, & the #1 team in the NFC to do it. Who remembers that the Colts had the best record in the NFL that season? Based on what you were saying, they weren't the best team in the NFL, but who cares? Nobody says "well, the Steelers won the Super Bowl, but that doesn't really matter, the Colts went 14-2!"
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Kid, that analogy simply doesn't work. The Steelers won the super bowl because THEY played well enough to win. PCB beat me yesterday because the Bears defense (who have nothing to do with PCB's team) held Rodgers to zero touchdowns, and because the Raiders (who have nothing to do with my team) couldn't stop Ganther on the goal line twice. The Steelers beating 4 teams means they EARNED the super bowl win.
In real sports teams control what happens to them. In fantasy sports, we are subjects to the whims of scheduling. Put another way, it is completely conceivable (though not likely) that a team that comes in 9th every week in points can win our Super Bowl. Because they don't actually have to "play" anyone, they simply have to have the schedule work out that they are playing the one team each week that is worse than them.
In that respect, fantasy and the NFL are not comparable. No one in the world is dumb enough to think that the NFL team that puts up the most points in a season is entitled to anything. Does that mean point totals in fantasy shouldn't count for anything as well?
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Regular season success should mean something - playoff seeding and probably a first round bye for the top teams. Maybe a nominal amount for the top regular season team (something like 20% to the #1 team only).
This is not some silly theory that's unsupported and deserves being mocked by photos of Xena.