11-24-2009, 03:21 AM
Ok, just watched.
SPOILERS
I didn't think it was that fucked up as most, but I completely see that side of the critism--the physical and sexual violence.
I definately did not like it, BUT I did not dislike it. This, to me, is something that doesn't really need to be seen by anyone...a problem the director, no doubt, doesn't give a shit about. I would never go, "Hey, you have to check out Antichrist!"
There are some things that I did like about this movie, however. I liked how nature acted kind of as a foil to humanity: the pragmatic scope and the emotional scope (as Rok mentioned.) It seems to me that the movie is meant to be totally nihilistic. Where chaos reigns no one can be in control; her total breakdown and his "fight response" in killing her after she gave up and needing to nourish himself with berries both actualized this.
I don't feel that the animals needed to be there as much as they were. The talking fox was a little insulting, as Butcher described, and The Three Beggars watching Him leave seemed unnecessary. I'm still a little unsure of the mass exodus of half-naked, blurry women. Perhaps something to do with "Genocide" or women being freed from some purgatory of sorts (which would have strange and serious implications if you couple that with the female castration.)
I echo Butcher in that the graphic nature of the cutting was unnecessary and seemed to take it to a different level of grotesque shock for no real purpose but that. I think of two scenes where that level of shock was achieved in the same direct, visceral, literal manner that achieved thE desired shock, without detriment to the movie: Pan's Labyrinth's wine bottle execution scene and that backwards movie where the guy is bludgeoned to death with a fire extinguisher. Those were gross, shocking, etc. but served their purposes effectively.
I don't really have a problem with how it was filmed. I didn't mind the Calvin Klein cut to Dogma style (but I laughed out loud when I read Butcher's description of it as such.) Some parts were heavy handed, though. Did anyone else notice the strange, optical camera distortion in scenes where they filmed the woods from a farther perspective? Maybe it was accidental, but there was a bit of (for lack of better words) clown mirror distortion around the edges of the screen while the camera panned over the woods.
SPOILERS
I didn't think it was that fucked up as most, but I completely see that side of the critism--the physical and sexual violence.
I definately did not like it, BUT I did not dislike it. This, to me, is something that doesn't really need to be seen by anyone...a problem the director, no doubt, doesn't give a shit about. I would never go, "Hey, you have to check out Antichrist!"
There are some things that I did like about this movie, however. I liked how nature acted kind of as a foil to humanity: the pragmatic scope and the emotional scope (as Rok mentioned.) It seems to me that the movie is meant to be totally nihilistic. Where chaos reigns no one can be in control; her total breakdown and his "fight response" in killing her after she gave up and needing to nourish himself with berries both actualized this.
I don't feel that the animals needed to be there as much as they were. The talking fox was a little insulting, as Butcher described, and The Three Beggars watching Him leave seemed unnecessary. I'm still a little unsure of the mass exodus of half-naked, blurry women. Perhaps something to do with "Genocide" or women being freed from some purgatory of sorts (which would have strange and serious implications if you couple that with the female castration.)
I echo Butcher in that the graphic nature of the cutting was unnecessary and seemed to take it to a different level of grotesque shock for no real purpose but that. I think of two scenes where that level of shock was achieved in the same direct, visceral, literal manner that achieved thE desired shock, without detriment to the movie: Pan's Labyrinth's wine bottle execution scene and that backwards movie where the guy is bludgeoned to death with a fire extinguisher. Those were gross, shocking, etc. but served their purposes effectively.
I don't really have a problem with how it was filmed. I didn't mind the Calvin Klein cut to Dogma style (but I laughed out loud when I read Butcher's description of it as such.) Some parts were heavy handed, though. Did anyone else notice the strange, optical camera distortion in scenes where they filmed the woods from a farther perspective? Maybe it was accidental, but there was a bit of (for lack of better words) clown mirror distortion around the edges of the screen while the camera panned over the woods.
If Angelo had picked McClellin, I would have been expecting to hear by training camp that kid has stage 4 cancer, is actually 5'2" 142 lbs, is a chick who played in a 7 - 0 defensive scheme who only rotated in on downs which were 3 and 34 yds + so is not expecting to play a down in the NFL until the sex change is complete and she puts on another 100 lbs. + but this is Emery's first pick so he'll get a pass with a bit of questioning. - 1060Ivy