11-19-2009, 11:51 PM
<!--quoteo(post=69694:date=Nov 19 2009, 10:29 PM:name=Coldneck)-->QUOTE (Coldneck @ Nov 19 2009, 10:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Granderson is damn near another all or nothing type like Soriano.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I disagree with that. Granderson has the ability to take a walk.
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->Granderson's strike zone awareness is hideous<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
As I said earlier, he's averaged 65 BBs the last 4 years. Crawford had a career high this year with 50. His next highest total after that would be 35.
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->and he is nearly an automatic out against LH pitching.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
While I agree that he's not very good against LHP, 80% of the 2009 Chicago Cubs' plate appearances were against RHP. Right handed center fielders are a dime a dozen and shouldn't be hard to get a decent one.
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->Granderson batting leadoff makes no seanse.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I agree, which is why he would be great as a #5 behind Aramis.
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->Crawford batting leadoff makes us a much better team.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I disagree. Again, Granderson gets on base at a better rate and hits for much more power. I don't care how many bases Crawford steals. If Granderson does those two things better than Crawford, then Granderson makes this team better.
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->Granderson is considered a middle of the road defender.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I honestly can't give you an opinion on Granderson's centerfielding ability because I haven't seen him play much. I also can't give you an opinion for Crawford because he hasn't played CF much. I can tell you that the only metric I put much stock into, the fielding bible's plus/minus system, Granderson was the 8th best centerfielders in MLB from 2006-2008. That tells me that he's at least better than average. Crawford ranked 2nd among LFers. I still have to question why he was never given a chance over such great centerfielders as Rocco Baldelli, Damon Hollins, and Randy Winn.
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->Crawford is considered the best LFer in baseball and widely considered the best OFer in baseball.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm not saying I disagree with this, but I have never heard of him being the best outfielder in baseball. I would think he would at least be in right field or center field on his own team if that were the case.
I disagree with that. Granderson has the ability to take a walk.
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->Granderson's strike zone awareness is hideous<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
As I said earlier, he's averaged 65 BBs the last 4 years. Crawford had a career high this year with 50. His next highest total after that would be 35.
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->and he is nearly an automatic out against LH pitching.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
While I agree that he's not very good against LHP, 80% of the 2009 Chicago Cubs' plate appearances were against RHP. Right handed center fielders are a dime a dozen and shouldn't be hard to get a decent one.
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->Granderson batting leadoff makes no seanse.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I agree, which is why he would be great as a #5 behind Aramis.
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->Crawford batting leadoff makes us a much better team.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I disagree. Again, Granderson gets on base at a better rate and hits for much more power. I don't care how many bases Crawford steals. If Granderson does those two things better than Crawford, then Granderson makes this team better.
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->Granderson is considered a middle of the road defender.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I honestly can't give you an opinion on Granderson's centerfielding ability because I haven't seen him play much. I also can't give you an opinion for Crawford because he hasn't played CF much. I can tell you that the only metric I put much stock into, the fielding bible's plus/minus system, Granderson was the 8th best centerfielders in MLB from 2006-2008. That tells me that he's at least better than average. Crawford ranked 2nd among LFers. I still have to question why he was never given a chance over such great centerfielders as Rocco Baldelli, Damon Hollins, and Randy Winn.
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->Crawford is considered the best LFer in baseball and widely considered the best OFer in baseball.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm not saying I disagree with this, but I have never heard of him being the best outfielder in baseball. I would think he would at least be in right field or center field on his own team if that were the case.

