11-19-2009, 02:36 PM
<!--quoteo(post=69574:date=Nov 19 2009, 12:16 PM:name=Scarey)-->QUOTE (Scarey @ Nov 19 2009, 12:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=69569:date=Nov 19 2009, 01:00 PM:name=bz)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bz @ Nov 19 2009, 01:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=69539:date=Nov 19 2009, 10:12 AM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Nov 19 2009, 10:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I think part of the reason people dislike the Colvin pick is that it seems like Hendry took him because he went to his alma mater and it was some sort of emotional decision. Whether that's really true, who knows. Also, I don't think he made any team's list as a first-rounder (which seems to lend credence to the idea that Hendry drafted him early because of emotional ties).
Whatever. Wilkens has obviously done something right. Plenty of people are talking about our farm system again, which hasn't happened in a while. Whether we develop these guys or use them to make some solid trades, this is a very good thing.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
That and he seemed to fit a specific pedigree of player that Hendry goes after: toolsy, athletic, etc. I know I and a few others were annoyed that he picked someone who is an athlete rather than a baseball player (even though the type of player I wanted wasn't really available at that point in the draft.)
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I don't get why you guys think that as soon as the word tool comes up, the player tagged with the word is not a baseball player. You realize that Starlin Castro is an athlete and a toolsy player right?
In fact, a player with a lot of tools is the very definition of a baseball player. The tools are hitting for average, hitting for power, defensive ability, arm strength, and speed. The only thing that should really be added to the tools list is plate discipline. So, if your beef is that the players Hendry drafts don't have good plate discipline, that's somewhat legitimate especially if you're referring to Colvin.
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I think the failing is that certain scouts see an athlete and think that because they are athletic, they can be developed into a "baseball player." A great athlete isn't always a great hitter. Being a great hitter with a great batting eye is a very specific skill set that has very little to do with how athletic you are.
I'm not saying you can't be both. And if you CAN be both, great. But I'd rather have a mildly athletic player who can sting the ball, then a great athlete that we hope can develop into a hitter.
Whatever. Wilkens has obviously done something right. Plenty of people are talking about our farm system again, which hasn't happened in a while. Whether we develop these guys or use them to make some solid trades, this is a very good thing.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
That and he seemed to fit a specific pedigree of player that Hendry goes after: toolsy, athletic, etc. I know I and a few others were annoyed that he picked someone who is an athlete rather than a baseball player (even though the type of player I wanted wasn't really available at that point in the draft.)
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I don't get why you guys think that as soon as the word tool comes up, the player tagged with the word is not a baseball player. You realize that Starlin Castro is an athlete and a toolsy player right?
In fact, a player with a lot of tools is the very definition of a baseball player. The tools are hitting for average, hitting for power, defensive ability, arm strength, and speed. The only thing that should really be added to the tools list is plate discipline. So, if your beef is that the players Hendry drafts don't have good plate discipline, that's somewhat legitimate especially if you're referring to Colvin.
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I think the failing is that certain scouts see an athlete and think that because they are athletic, they can be developed into a "baseball player." A great athlete isn't always a great hitter. Being a great hitter with a great batting eye is a very specific skill set that has very little to do with how athletic you are.
I'm not saying you can't be both. And if you CAN be both, great. But I'd rather have a mildly athletic player who can sting the ball, then a great athlete that we hope can develop into a hitter.