11-13-2009, 12:38 PM
<!--quoteo(post=68892:date=Nov 13 2009, 11:28 AM:name=veryzer)-->QUOTE (veryzer @ Nov 13 2009, 11:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=68871:date=Nov 12 2009, 10:53 PM:name=KBwsb)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KBwsb @ Nov 12 2009, 10:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->It's surprising to me that everyone agrees that Hendry blew it big-time by purposely making Sosa "damaged goods" right before trying to trade him, yet no one will admit that he did the exact same thing with Bradley.
To call him out in the media, and basically say "we hate you and you will never play for us again" when he still has 2 years left on a hefty contract...that's something a 22 year old intern would do, not the GM of a multi-million dollar franchise.
As far as tomveryzer "knowing" that Pie would be a bust? He didn't. He simply made an educated guess, since only about 1 in 10 heralded prospects ever turn out to be real stars. However, a fan <i>could</i> have predicted the future failures of Patterson and Pie by simply looking at their strikeout/walk stats. Neither guy had any kind of plate discipline, and MLB pitchers <i>feast</i> on free-swingers.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
dude, hendry HAD to do what he did with bradley. there was still a month to go and a very slim chance of playoffs. bradley was disrupting the entire team. he was a distraction DURING THE SEASON. sosa pulled his shit the last day of a lost year. instead of keeping his mouth shut, he buried sosa in the press, making it virtually impossible to get any value for him. big big difference kb.
how was ibanez or abreau or even dunn (and i hate dunn) a bigger crapshoot? even if they underperformed, we knew they would probably stay healthy and not be douchebags. Bradley was clearly the bigger crapshoot.
i'll back off the patterson thing, but not pie. some of us were screaming for hendry to trade pie while he still had some kind of ceiling. hendry waited and got nothing for him.
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Plus, in regards to the Bradly contract, does a lack of decent FA options mean that we need to dole out ridiculous contracts? Suppose Bradly was the only FA capable of playing RF in all of baseball. Does that make him worth $30 mil? Hell, if we could have gotten him for a one year deal or at a bargain, I would've been ok with rolling the dice but I have a hard time believing that there was much other demand for his services. I would've much rather broke spring training with Hoffapaur in RF. It wouldn't have been the end of the world. Then, who knows- with the extra payroll flexibility it might have been the Cubs trading for Holliday.
In short, Hendry = not to blame for the way Bradly was handled at the end of the season. But he was to blame for giving the asshole a 3 year deal in the first place.
To call him out in the media, and basically say "we hate you and you will never play for us again" when he still has 2 years left on a hefty contract...that's something a 22 year old intern would do, not the GM of a multi-million dollar franchise.
As far as tomveryzer "knowing" that Pie would be a bust? He didn't. He simply made an educated guess, since only about 1 in 10 heralded prospects ever turn out to be real stars. However, a fan <i>could</i> have predicted the future failures of Patterson and Pie by simply looking at their strikeout/walk stats. Neither guy had any kind of plate discipline, and MLB pitchers <i>feast</i> on free-swingers.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
dude, hendry HAD to do what he did with bradley. there was still a month to go and a very slim chance of playoffs. bradley was disrupting the entire team. he was a distraction DURING THE SEASON. sosa pulled his shit the last day of a lost year. instead of keeping his mouth shut, he buried sosa in the press, making it virtually impossible to get any value for him. big big difference kb.
how was ibanez or abreau or even dunn (and i hate dunn) a bigger crapshoot? even if they underperformed, we knew they would probably stay healthy and not be douchebags. Bradley was clearly the bigger crapshoot.
i'll back off the patterson thing, but not pie. some of us were screaming for hendry to trade pie while he still had some kind of ceiling. hendry waited and got nothing for him.
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Plus, in regards to the Bradly contract, does a lack of decent FA options mean that we need to dole out ridiculous contracts? Suppose Bradly was the only FA capable of playing RF in all of baseball. Does that make him worth $30 mil? Hell, if we could have gotten him for a one year deal or at a bargain, I would've been ok with rolling the dice but I have a hard time believing that there was much other demand for his services. I would've much rather broke spring training with Hoffapaur in RF. It wouldn't have been the end of the world. Then, who knows- with the extra payroll flexibility it might have been the Cubs trading for Holliday.
In short, Hendry = not to blame for the way Bradly was handled at the end of the season. But he was to blame for giving the asshole a 3 year deal in the first place.