10-10-2009, 11:25 AM
<!--quoteo(post=66048:date=Oct 8 2009, 09:33 PM:name=savant)-->QUOTE (savant @ Oct 8 2009, 09:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=66045:date=Oct 8 2009, 08:28 PM:name=BT)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BT @ Oct 8 2009, 08:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=66032:date=Oct 8 2009, 08:01 PM:name=savant)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (savant @ Oct 8 2009, 08:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=66028:date=Oct 8 2009, 07:53 PM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Oct 8 2009, 07:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=66026:date=Oct 8 2009, 07:19 PM:name=savant)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (savant @ Oct 8 2009, 07:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=66019:date=Oct 8 2009, 04:26 PM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Oct 8 2009, 04:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=66018:date=Oct 8 2009, 04:21 PM:name=Scarey)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Scarey @ Oct 8 2009, 04:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Yeah, that's a pretty good approach. The other type of player we need to develop are the up-the-middle types. It's so hard to acquire a good catcher, shortstop, and to an extent centerfielder. Second base isn't very easy either.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I agree with that 100%. If you look at all the best teams in baseball, they are all solid up the middle. You really can't have a good defensive team without emphasizing C, SS and CF, and if you have a lot of turnover in those areas, it makes it doubly tough to win year in and year out. I like the direction the organization is going in that regard.
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It is a small pet peeve of mine, but there is almost no difference defensively between a shortstop and a secondbaseman. The amount of chances on a year to year basis is very similar, and really the only difference is that the shortstop has to have more arm, although a secondbaseman needs a lot of arm for making plays to his right.
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To me it isn't just having a stronger arm, but the SS needs to be athletic enough and have the right instincts to be able to turn some of the tougher DPs on a daily basis. For example, Theriot blows at that.
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Agree, I just don't think Theriot would be a much better second baseman.
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I sorta disagree. His shitty arm is made for 2b, plus the second baseman has a lot more leeway when it comes to bobbling balls, or knocking them down. SS usually has ONE shot at making a play. Pretty much everywhere else on the IF can screw up and still get the guy out.
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That is a very good point BT, my main problem with Theriot is I don't understand his total lack of range. I really don't think his arm is as bad as the reputation it has. If he can be the .380 OBP guy, I can live with him, but at .330 I have a hard time with him being a starter.
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Blame Lou for any reductions in Theriot's OBP this year.
I agree with that 100%. If you look at all the best teams in baseball, they are all solid up the middle. You really can't have a good defensive team without emphasizing C, SS and CF, and if you have a lot of turnover in those areas, it makes it doubly tough to win year in and year out. I like the direction the organization is going in that regard.
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It is a small pet peeve of mine, but there is almost no difference defensively between a shortstop and a secondbaseman. The amount of chances on a year to year basis is very similar, and really the only difference is that the shortstop has to have more arm, although a secondbaseman needs a lot of arm for making plays to his right.
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To me it isn't just having a stronger arm, but the SS needs to be athletic enough and have the right instincts to be able to turn some of the tougher DPs on a daily basis. For example, Theriot blows at that.
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Agree, I just don't think Theriot would be a much better second baseman.
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I sorta disagree. His shitty arm is made for 2b, plus the second baseman has a lot more leeway when it comes to bobbling balls, or knocking them down. SS usually has ONE shot at making a play. Pretty much everywhere else on the IF can screw up and still get the guy out.
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That is a very good point BT, my main problem with Theriot is I don't understand his total lack of range. I really don't think his arm is as bad as the reputation it has. If he can be the .380 OBP guy, I can live with him, but at .330 I have a hard time with him being a starter.
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Blame Lou for any reductions in Theriot's OBP this year.
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